2011 Golfshake Match Play Series


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2011 Golfshake Match Play Series

Adam Smith

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Handicap : 7

Posted : Thu 5th Aug 2010 15:51

For full details see here:

http://www.golfshake.com/news/view/1749/Proposed_Golfshake_Match_Play_Serie
s_2011.html

To help us gauge interest please enter your pairings below along with any thoughts you have on the event.

Update: 14th September 2010

Current numbers are around 23 confirmed teams with 9 people looking for partners

South - 9 teams (even split of 3 in S, SE, SW)

Central - 8 teams (even split of 4 in WM, EM)

North - 9 team (5 NW, 3 Y, 1 NE)

Scotland - 3 teams 

 

Looking good to go, will push on for some more team and then look to confirm regions and potential teams. 

Last edit : Tue 14th Sep 2010 16:45
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Dave ley


Handicap : 9.7

Reply : Thu 5th Aug 2010 16:02

Dave Ley & Kev Hewitt

should be 3/4 hcp max 18 like all national pairs comps.

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Matt Simmons


Handicap : 19.7

Reply : Thu 5th Aug 2010 16:25

Just cos you dont want me to play Dave

Guess I could get down to 18 by next year. either that or just change my Hcap.....

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Wayne Santorini


Handicap : 0

Reply : Thu 5th Aug 2010 16:32

Actually agree with Leyo, any person putting their name forward to receive a max 18 Handicap and then 3/4 on the day.

Therefore someone with 23 handicap would for the purpose of their match get 18, and then 3/4 of the difference against the lowest, so they would end up with 14.

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Chris Perry

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Handicap : 13.4

Reply : Thu 5th Aug 2010 17:11
I'm in but would need a partner.  As I am moving house soon, I may have to get one after I have moved
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Paul Hindmarsh


Handicap : 9.3

Reply : Thu 5th Aug 2010 17:24

We're in, Paul Hindmarsh and Ian Prince

Central Div

Home club Newbold Comyn GC, Leamington Spa

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John Flood


Handicap : 11.9

Reply : Thu 5th Aug 2010 18:13
David Homer & John Flood
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Martin Millichip


Handicap : 5.8

Reply : Thu 5th Aug 2010 19:54
Martin Millichip & Tim Hawkins
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Andrew Mclelland


Handicap : 24.8

Reply : Thu 5th Aug 2010 20:46
Where does Scotland come in, Are we under North or do is Scotland a region on its own.
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Dave Knatt


Handicap : 20.1

Reply : Thu 5th Aug 2010 20:57

Looks like a great addition to the Golfshake calendar!

Can't commit yet but will hopefully be involved. 

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Tim Hawkins


Handicap : 16.2

Reply : Thu 5th Aug 2010 21:01
The dream team are back together!  Bring it on (especially Dave and Kev!)
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Andy Kenyon


Handicap : 18.4

Reply : Thu 5th Aug 2010 21:38
Liking the idea. Not sure of the time committment needed and finding of a partner...
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Darren Ramowski

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Handicap : 21

Reply : Fri 6th Aug 2010 11:54
Andy that's why we have limited to 4 matches over a 7-8 month period, plus we can hold some sort of ballot system to pick teams or a 'find a partner' plug
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Dave Knatt


Handicap : 20.1

Reply : Fri 6th Aug 2010 22:01
I've got a partner! Dave Knatt & Dean Spiers are up for the challenge!
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Andrew Mclelland


Handicap : 24.8

Reply : Fri 6th Aug 2010 22:09
Where does Scotland come under
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Wayne Santorini


Handicap : 0

Reply : Fri 6th Aug 2010 22:12
Right Santo & Sobey are in for the North West.
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Mark Aughney


Handicap : 14.2

Reply : Sat 7th Aug 2010 18:12
I am in, and I would think my partner would be John McGaffney.

Cheers
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Christian Reed


Handicap : 20.3

Reply : Sat 7th Aug 2010 22:12

Great idea in theory, but i think Andrew has a valid point about the size of areas covered. People would be great playing their home games but my guess is there would be a lot of last minute pull outs when people don't fancy travelling 100 miles for a game of golf on a grim looking saturday morning with a hangover.

Just a suggestion but how about 8 regions (Scotland, North East, North West, Yorkshire, Wales, South West, Midlands, South East) With the winning team from each region qualifying for Finals weekend?? Might encourage more people to sign up if they know theyre playing in their local(ish) area.

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Andrew Mclelland


Handicap : 24.8

Reply : Sat 7th Aug 2010 22:35
Think Christian has a point, Just one thing, I think you could split Scotland into more regions, From west to east, north to south is still a long distance in Scotland.
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Neil Beech


Handicap : 10.8

Reply : Sun 8th Aug 2010 06:24
me and stu laws will have a go home course doncaster town moor south yorkshire
Last edit : Mon 30th Aug 2010 21:08
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Adam Smith

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Handicap : 7

Reply : Sun 8th Aug 2010 18:53

Christian and Andrew, great ideas and as you say yes it does sound good to have that many regions and if we could then we would.

It is all about gettings numbers at the moment and the ideas are still at an early stage in terms of organising.

We have written Scotland down to have it's own group even though it wasn't in the initial page, having two or more regions will again deoend on interest and numbers.

In regards to travelling far to a match, we understand that it may happen. But it may have to happen if regions are not filled which is why we have given seven months for the completion of your matches.

Again, early stages and we hope that this event can take off!

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Kenny Chance


Handicap : 18.5

Reply : Thu 12th Aug 2010 17:31

Me and Dave Patrick will be up for it.  Tilgate Forest would be ideal for us.  I know their are a few members local to us.  The Cack Handed kids!

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Phillip Newton


Handicap : 14.1

Reply : Mon 16th Aug 2010 21:03

Hi

sounds good I would be in ,need a partner.

phil

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Stewart Whittaker


Handicap : 13

Reply : Tue 17th Aug 2010 12:37
Count me and Anthony joyce for the northwest area
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Darren Millichip


Handicap : 7.8

Reply : Tue 17th Aug 2010 12:59

Count me in and i will also need a sucker  partner

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Dave ley


Handicap : 9.7

Reply : Tue 17th Aug 2010 13:08

I'd have no hesitatiton  picking you as a partner Daz, good luck.

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David Marshall


Handicap : 9.9

Reply : Tue 17th Aug 2010 13:11
I would like to play...But don't have a playing partner
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Dave ley


Handicap : 9.7

Reply : Tue 17th Aug 2010 13:31
wot about Matt?
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Andrew Mclelland


Handicap : 24.8

Reply : Tue 17th Aug 2010 13:37
Im in along with a partner, To be chossen as yet
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David Marshall


Handicap : 9.9

Reply : Tue 17th Aug 2010 13:43

wot about Matt??

 

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Dave ley


Handicap : 9.7

Reply : Tue 17th Aug 2010 13:59

as a partner, you simpleton!

hey. have you checked out that Newport video  I'm sure you will want to move across the border then only 7 more sleeps till Saunton!!

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David Marshall


Handicap : 9.9

Reply : Tue 17th Aug 2010 14:08
Matt...My golfing partner?   I wanna stand a chance...not get wiped out 
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Dave ley


Handicap : 9.7

Reply : Tue 17th Aug 2010 14:14
Yeh I know..
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Graham Fearnley


Handicap : 13.2

Reply : Fri 27th Aug 2010 12:34

Graham Fearnley (12.4) & Alan Arnett (21.7)

It would also depend on how far we would be traveling, we are based in West Yorkshire, hopefully it would be in Reigions, but sounds a great idea.

Graham

Last edit : Fri 27th Aug 2010 12:35
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Daniel Mould


Handicap : 11.7

Reply : Fri 27th Aug 2010 17:41
Sounds like Fun, Myself and Bob Cole please (South area).
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Jonathan Crickmore


Handicap : 18.5

Reply : Mon 30th Aug 2010 18:10
Hi - register myself and Steve Campbell please
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Matt Simmons


Handicap : 19.7

Reply : Tue 31st Aug 2010 08:57

Oi you two!!!!!!! Thats hurt my feelings and everything! at least it would make you look good Dave (M)...

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Lee Fretwell


Handicap : 15.2

Reply : Mon 6th Sep 2010 10:38

I'd like to register myself (12.9) and my friend Martin Collins (11.9) as a team.

I live in Nottingham and Martin in Andover, Hampshire and we will play in the central region.

If the groups in central region are being created in a north, south, east, west bias would prefer playing southern teams in the region to help martins travel. No worries if not.

Cheers 

Last edit : Wed 15th Sep 2010 14:20
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Gerard Keeley


Handicap : 22.7

Reply : Mon 6th Sep 2010 11:04
Ged Keeley and Gary Spears we are in
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David Roth


Handicap : 14.5

Reply : Mon 6th Sep 2010 11:28
David Roth and Steve Goss are interested in entering, would want to play in the good old south. is there gonna be mixed pairs as well.
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Darren Ramowski

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Handicap : 21

Reply : Mon 6th Sep 2010 11:43
Great stuff guys, think we will start to compiling an official list of interested parties soon.
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Graham Lock


Handicap : 15.1

Reply : Tue 7th Sep 2010 00:41

Graham Lock and Partner TBC, definitely interested.

Dave Roth give you plenty of time to heal the wounds, Bad hand and getting knocked out of the club Semi finals Pairs Matchplay!!

Adam/Darren Is this going to just be a pairs event or are you considering singles as well? Dave mentioned Mixed Pairs but I presume as an additional event rather than if they were allowed.

Early post re handicaps (Dave Ley), why would you lower above 18 handicappers to 18? why not have 3/4 difference but anyone with handicap less than 10 has to play of scratch, just as fair as what is being proposed. The R&A make recommendations and I have never seen one that says people have to play of a lower handicap than their real one! Also comment like all national comps, I entered How-did-i-do and Matchplay championship this year no limit on handicap other than max 28. They are national / international comps.

I doubt this would affect me, on current GS handicap or very little on club handicap based on a bad winter, but handicaps are there for a reason, you may always get bandits that are manipulating their handicaps, but in general I find that as much in the 10 - 18 range as the 18+

 

Last edit : Tue 7th Sep 2010 08:18
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David Roth


Handicap : 14.5

Reply : Tue 7th Sep 2010 02:45

at least i had an excuse for losing my semi final. about time you put some of your cards in otherwise you got no chance of winning anything. don't remember the last time i saw you play to 16. who is your partner cos daniel's .05 over 28 at the moment. i think russ is available but he's crap at the moment, thats why i didn't ask him. it was his thought we lost our semi, couldn't perform on his home course. he did 48 on front nine on saturday and then pissed off home.

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James Illsley


Handicap : 13

Reply : Tue 7th Sep 2010 06:08
Myself an Andy Adams (18.4) would also like to enter.
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Dennis Visser

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Handicap : 10

Reply : Tue 7th Sep 2010 07:56
Myself and Troy Burrows should be good!!
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Mark Love


Handicap : 12.9

Reply : Thu 9th Sep 2010 00:57
Stick myself and Joe Moore down too.
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Paul Melling


Handicap : 19.1

Reply : Thu 9th Sep 2010 08:52

We're up for this... playing in the south (preferrable south-east if numbers allow)

Paul Melling (16.9)
Raffaello Cowan-Boscardi (24.6)

Agree with comments about max 18 hcp - totally unfair to those with more than this!!

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Graham Mclean


Handicap : 6.6

Reply : Fri 10th Sep 2010 20:47

Myself and Bill Donaghan for the North west also...great idea, love match play

 

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Danny Brant


Handicap : 18.2

Reply : Mon 13th Sep 2010 08:23

I think I could muster up a team.

Myself (17.3) and John Slater (14.6). Home course Eltham Warren. Sarf London.

Last edit : Mon 13th Sep 2010 08:25
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Dave ley


Handicap : 9.7

Reply : Mon 13th Sep 2010 09:51
Well done Danny, first time I've seen some decent opposition on the list
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John Flood


Handicap : 11.9

Reply : Mon 13th Sep 2010 09:59

Dave,

wait till you come up against the mighty lefties at Cleobury Just in case you want to change your partner I've got Dai ready & waiting

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Dave ley


Handicap : 9.7

Reply : Mon 13th Sep 2010 17:14
yeh a shame you broke up the dynamic pairings of leyo and Dai "the Dragons" with our 7&5 win over you but i will leave my partner as Santo as I will play with anyone ,win lose or draw we will have a good time. I was just thinking how easier it would be with two lefties as you were the weakist link the last time
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Danny Brant


Handicap : 18.2

Reply : Mon 13th Sep 2010 20:12
Does that mean I'd have to play golf in Wales?
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Alan Gunnigle


Handicap : 10.7

Reply : Mon 13th Sep 2010 20:25
if it's not too late put me and a partner down for the NW
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Tim Hawkins


Handicap : 16.2

Reply : Mon 13th Sep 2010 20:34
Ah, getting cocky now, eh Alan?
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Marc Davies


Handicap : 16.7

Reply : Mon 13th Sep 2010 20:38
me and chris salter for NW
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Alan Gunnigle


Handicap : 10.7

Reply : Mon 13th Sep 2010 20:40
tim, just have to pursuade some one to partner me, he is a member here but doesn't know i'm homeing in on him
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Darren Ramowski

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Handicap : 21

Reply : Mon 13th Sep 2010 20:44

Thanks for the offer Alan, will happily accept

Seriously though, just finishing post work/tasks from the weekends Golfshake Open and we will then be sorting this. Looks like we have around 30 pairs so far so early signs are this will be a goer, we will be compiling a list of pairs and regions later this week to see how it is all stacking up.

 

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Scott Dench-smith


Handicap : 28

Reply : Tue 14th Sep 2010 14:42

Count myself and partner in

Scott Dench-Smith (28) and Nathan Ratcliffe. We are in the Notts area and would consider Mansfield Golf Centre to be home course.

Warning though, this would be our first competitive play in golf and although we follow etiquette and the rules, there will be somethings we don't know, so please be patient with us.

Besides that whoever we play will win. Think of it being Worksop Town Football Club (us) Vs Chelsea (everybody else).

If on Tiger Woods 2011 on Xbox 360 it would be a different story LOL

SDS 

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Dave ley


Handicap : 9.7

Reply : Tue 14th Sep 2010 15:22
SDS  don't even think about taking the underdog undersheep mantle thats firmly mine i'm Welsh
Last edit : Tue 14th Sep 2010 16:57
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Darren Millichip


Handicap : 7.8

Reply : Tue 14th Sep 2010 16:37
Dont yom mean "undersheep" dave :D
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Darren Ramowski

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Handicap : 21

Reply : Tue 14th Sep 2010 16:46

See the initial post back up at the top!  update on teams interested and regions etc

 

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Gary Allen


Handicap : 19.1

Reply : Tue 14th Sep 2010 18:31
You can put my name & Mark smith down from the east.thanks.
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Colin Ainsworth


Handicap : 8.8

Reply : Thu 16th Sep 2010 20:16

I'll join in, and I'll persuade someone to join me, or else I'll have to let you chose!

South East region please!

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Chris Brannon


Handicap : 12.4

Reply : Thu 16th Sep 2010 22:25
Go on then...........me and John Spencer - North (South Yorkshire) - also likely to be playing out of Doncaster Town Moor
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Allan Bostock


Handicap : 7.5

Reply : Thu 16th Sep 2010 22:31
If you are still looking Darren, i'll team up with you.
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Tim Greaves


Handicap : 9

Reply : Fri 17th Sep 2010 00:12

Hi Adam

I am defo in with Jan Burroughs. S or SE region would be good as our home course is in Brighton.

Let me know when you have sorted areas out.

It will be good practise for N vs S (at which we are unbeaten) (played one, halved one LOL )

Agree that top handicap should be 18. It is at our club for pairs comps. 

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Darren Millichip


Handicap : 7.8

Reply : Fri 17th Sep 2010 06:32

Yes thanks allan.

darren millichip and allan bostock

playing out of the south yorkshire area

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John Spencer


Handicap : 14

Reply : Fri 17th Sep 2010 09:13

I see theres already a healthy contingent from the finest society in the United Kingdom - CGL (County Golf League)

Martin Millichip & Tim Hawkins

Darren Millichip & Allan Bostock

Stu Laws & Neil Beech

James Illsley & Andy Adams

John Spencer & Chris Brannon

Good luck guys....

 

Last edit : Fri 17th Sep 2010 09:14
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Andrew Mclelland


Handicap : 24.8

Reply : Fri 17th Sep 2010 10:11

Andy Mclelland plus partner

West Scotland

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Andrew Mclelland


Handicap : 24.8

Reply : Fri 17th Sep 2010 20:59
Meant to ask, Why should there be max handicap of 18. Surley what each persons handicap is what they should play with. A max handicap of 18 would mean someone with a high handicap is at a disadvantage.
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John Spencer


Handicap : 14

Reply : Fri 17th Sep 2010 21:28
You do make a good point Andrew but if the rules stipulute max 18 for this competition then max 18 it is, im sure there are many competitions that include higher handicaps.
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John Flood


Handicap : 11.9

Reply : Fri 17th Sep 2010 21:46

Andrew,

Not sure if that is the actual rule, it was just suggested by a few members. 

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Tim Hawkins


Handicap : 16.2

Reply : Sat 18th Sep 2010 00:23
I've got to agree with the maximum handicap - it's really, really hard to compete in matchplay with someone getting two shots on a hole especially if it's a par 3 (which can happen).  If a high handicapper gets a par on a hole then it is virtually impossible to even halve it, and as for a getting a birdie on a par 3...
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John Flood


Handicap : 11.9

Reply : Sat 18th Sep 2010 08:58

Tim,

Not impossible, I played in a match yesterday & my opponents got 4 & 6 shots on me respectively.

On our 11th 178 yard par3 they walked off with a par.........& lost the hole I stiffed it to 3 feet & holed the putt for a 2

But I also agree the handicap should be set to a maximum of 18.

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John Pettitt


Handicap : 18

Reply : Sat 18th Sep 2010 09:08

Tim, the R & A , in their wisdom decided to change some rules which had worked for well over 100 years, this was probably done to accommodate those players who were unable to reach the standards of yesteryear.

Maximum handicap was 24 and when playing matchplay and taking the 3/4 rule then no competitor received more than 18 shots, one per hole.

I honestly don't know why these very high handicappers feel that they should be entitled to play in any event they wish, just because they have a handicap.

One cannot enter a County Championship unless one is 4 or below. Any major Amateur event like "The Brabazon" would require a scratch handicap and at the most ballotted out at 1 handicap.

Rules for Open events are at the discretion of the organising committee ad what they decide is what happens. Whinging about it will do not good whatsoever and in the case of this golfshake event, the object is to get as strong a field as is possible and I doubt very much if there would be much interest if the handicaps were stretched to the maximum of 28.

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John Flood


Handicap : 11.9

Reply : Sat 18th Sep 2010 09:21

John

I agree. At our club there are competitions for all handicap categories. This makes it an even playing field & no-one feels as if there getting mugged. 

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Chris Perry

[FORUM MODERATOR]
Handicap : 13.4

Reply : Sat 18th Sep 2010 09:30

I don't think we should restrict the handicaps as this is not in line with R & A rules.  However, if we set 3/4 of the difference in handicap as mentioned by the R & A for matchplay, then the most shots anyone could get is only 21, and that is with a 28 handicapper playing against a scratch golfer.  As, with the exception of Steve Cowle, Santo and Lyth (apologies if I missed anyone), the handicaps on here start at around 7, no-one would get two shots on a hole anyway. 

Do things in line with th R & A rules and guidelines and no-one can cry foul

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John Pettitt


Handicap : 18

Reply : Sat 18th Sep 2010 09:34
Of course they will not be getting 2 shots per hole but they will be getting 3 extra shots that I feel they should not be entitled to. It is about time the handicap system was completely restructured, because it just does not work and pandering to those who make no effort whatsoever to improve is not the way this game was meant to be played. Sorry, Chris. I just cannot agree with you.
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Chris Perry

[FORUM MODERATOR]
Handicap : 13.4

Reply : Sat 18th Sep 2010 10:46

Whether you agree with my opinion or not John, the rules are what they are.  As you well know, one cannot agree to waive a rule and as such we are bound by them and have to play in line with all of them, no matter how stupid they may be. 

I made my suggestion on the basis that we would be complying with all the R & A rules and guidelines.  Whether you agree with the rules surrounding handicaps or not (I know you don't and I agree with many of your thoughts on the subject), we are stuck with the rules as they stand.  As golfers, it is our duty to comply with them as honesty and integrity are what set this sport apart from so many others

 

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John Pettitt


Handicap : 18

Reply : Sat 18th Sep 2010 11:10
Any competition can have its own rules inasmuch in the handicap restriction set for it.
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Andrew Mclelland


Handicap : 24.8

Reply : Sat 18th Sep 2010 15:44

"and in the case of this golfshake event, the object is to get as strong a field as is possible and I doubt very much if there would be much interest if the handicaps were stretched to the maximum of 28."

I think the comment above that was made is a bit bad really. Just because someone is a higher handicap they should not be excluded because of there ability at golf. We have not all been playing years. Yes im a new comer to the game, all i want to do is play, have a good day and enjoy it, I dont want to be penalized just because im not a "Great golfer". Everyone has to start somewhere. If the rules stated that the max handicap was 18 then thats the rules i would follow, Thats not whats bothering me. I would play of 18 for the match, all im looking for is a good day out.

I think the people with higher handicaps should not be pushed to the side. We are just fellow golfers at the end of the day, The reason i joined Golfshake was that the site seemed to include everyone no matter what your ability.

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Dave Patrick


Handicap : 17.3

Reply : Sun 19th Sep 2010 21:24

Two quick questions.

If you have a handicap of 19+ will you still be able to compete but at a handicap of 18?

Is the suggested format of round robin with 5 pairs set in stone? as I think 8-10 matches over a few months could be hard logistically to comit to. What about a pure knock out with a team you are drawn against should be easier to arrange.

Dave CAC handed Geordie.

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Dave ley


Handicap : 9.7

Reply : Mon 20th Sep 2010 10:34

@ Andrew , Andrew you are misinterpreting what is ment by that statement . It is not to alienate higher hcp'rs what is being said is that single figure golfers will be reluctant to enter as they will feel they have no chance when giving away two many shots.The word strong in this context means numbers playing not playing ability. The written word can be confusing some times.

Last edit : Mon 20th Sep 2010 14:39
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Graham Fearnley


Handicap : 13.2

Reply : Mon 20th Sep 2010 12:12
Hi Andrew, I have just played a match against a 28 handicap in a match, I am playing of 13 and to give 15 shots to a player is very difficult. I do agree with some of the guys, the handicap system is what it is, and for competition to give every one the chance of winning, the handicaps should be as the R&A set out, 3/4 the difference. Please don't be put off, if you have just started playing, as you get better at the game you will understand why people get so defensive. by the way I got a half against the 28 handicap, not bad as I was three down after 10 holes. Graham.
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Scott Dench-smith


Handicap : 28

Reply : Mon 20th Sep 2010 20:52

I agree with andrew it should be about having a great day out as well as the golf playing. We who have a higher handicap can get better if we are able to play against the lower handicapped by watching them and picking up tips. The best thing to do is post the full rules ans regulations the players need to follow and then if somebody doesnt like them then dont enter                   

SDS 

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Alan Gunnigle


Handicap : 10.7

Reply : Mon 20th Sep 2010 22:05
scott, you really like to get your point across
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Chris Perry

[FORUM MODERATOR]
Handicap : 13.4

Reply : Mon 20th Sep 2010 22:41

One of the things that attracted me to and kept me on this site was the support given to beginners and high handicappers who want to improve their game.  I don't think my handicap would be as low as it is now without the help and support of many on this site.  It disappoints me when I see suggestions for rules and regulations being introduced that would discourage higher handicappers from partaking. 

Yes, the handicap system is not ideal.  Yes, a high handicapper who has a blinder will play further inside their handicap than a low handicapper who does the same.  But also remember, most high handicappers have a high handicap through inconsistency so they are just (if not more) likely to have a stinker.  A low handicapper will on most occaisions beat a high handicapper through a combination of consistency, experience and better course management. 

Most high handicappers would love to be playing off 10 or 15 or even 20.  Just because they are playing off 28 doesn't mean they are a bandit or do not want to improve.  For most, it simply means that at the current point in their golfing career they have not been able to to make that breakthrough.  Yes there are bandits out there but they are soon identified and not because they have one good round but because they consistently play well within their handicap. 

Please don't discourage high handicappers.  Many are new to the game and are the future of it.  Help them and teach them how the game should be played properly.  This will help them to improve and to love the game and hopefully they will pass this on to the next batch in a few years time.  Don't think they are all bandits or are happy to be playing off 28 just because a tiny minority might be. 

I was that high handicapper just a couple of years ago and without the support that was given to me then I would not be the player I am now nor love the game as I do now.  Don't, for the sake of our wonderful game, refuse that help and support the the current newcomers or it may not have a future.  

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Tim Hawkins


Handicap : 16.2

Reply : Tue 21st Sep 2010 00:11

Very eloquently put Chris, and I can't fault your reasoning, after all we've both sort of been on this journey together.  I wouldn't want to see anyone put off from entering, because it's true that playing with better players does really open your eyes and competition improves so many areas of your game.  The only thing that worries me (and probably a few others probably) is, and I hope you'll concede this little point, if you get drawn against the 'serial high handicapper'.  You know the type, still plays off 24/25 but is, er, slow in updating their handicap and it turns out they're actually more like a 15....

Shame no-one seems to have continued the high handicappers competitions really.  The couple I played in were a real hoot. 

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Chris Perry

[FORUM MODERATOR]
Handicap : 13.4

Reply : Tue 21st Sep 2010 08:43

Tim,

Not a conceded point at all as i agree, and I think I covered it with this: -

"Yes there are bandits out there but they are soon identified and not because they have one good round but because they consistently play well within their handicap."

I agree too regarding the demise of the High Handicap Comps.  I think one of the reasons they fell away is that thsoe who organised and played with them have seen the benefit and reduced their handicap so would no longer be eligible (such as you and I).  Be great to see those back

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Sean Goucher


Handicap : 20.8

Reply : Tue 21st Sep 2010 08:53

Just to fuel this ever increasing discussion on Handicap limits, Handicap calculations, 3/4 or 7/8 differences etc.....

I took the following from - what we call 'The Internet' in rural Lincolnshire.

'A handicap is a numerical measure of an amateur golfer's ability to play golf over the course of 9 or 18 holes. Handicaps can be applied either for stroke play competition or match play competition. In either competition, a handicap generally represents the number of strokes above par that a player will achieve on an above average day (i.e., when playing well).'

This tells me that a higher handicapper or any level of handicap - is at the level they are at on their best day, not every single round played.

I was once informed by a regular, extremely competent. player - that a Golfer would/should play to their handicap no more than 2-3 times a season. This we can see if you were to review almost everyones GS Handicap history.

Does it really matter what handicap people play at. We are on about a Winter Pairs League (I believe) not an 'On the day KO'. You are bound to get the odd shock - but invariably the better player(s) will prevail. 

Lets not be 'Handicapist' - I for one have had plenty of thrashings from lower handicapped players over the years - far far more than my odd wins. Golf is a learning curve, and playing with lower handicappers is a pleasure and a rarity these days.

At the last GS Open - I had a practice round with Dave Lay and Darren Atkinson (both extremely lower handicapper's than myself) - during which I learnt a mass of information, helped with Dave's forever ready Camera !! This I am carrying on, and incorporating in games since - so hopefully the Handicap will fall................

 

ALL FROM PLAYING WITH AND AGAINST LOWER HANDICAPPED PLAYERS

 

Sean '3 off the Tee' Goucher 

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John Flood


Handicap : 11.9

Reply : Tue 21st Sep 2010 09:32

There seems to be some confusion over the 3/4's rule.

It's not something that the low boys have just thought of, it's something that happens all the time in club golf comps.

No-one is saying that anybody with a handicap of 18+ can't enter, just that there handicap would be limited.

As it's a pairs comp as well you've got your partner to rely on so if you have a nightmare on one hole hopefully your partner will help you out.

 

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Sean Goucher


Handicap : 20.8

Reply : Tue 21st Sep 2010 10:15

There is no confusion on the 3/4 rule - I just mentioned the 7/8 as it has previously been mentioned in the thread - just an example.

I have always played pairs golf with 3/4 of the difference to the lowest handicap - irrespective of the individuals handicap.

My point is that there should be no limit - as the handicap reflects the persons best scores - not his average. I am pretty sure that there will not be that many "Higher" handicapped players wanting to play in the Match play series - but it is just the priciple - GOLF is for all levels of Golfer - not the elite!  

Taking the average golfer on GS (Handicap around @12) - against a 28 handicapper (which checking there aren't a plethora of) the shots would be 12 (3/4 of 16). These would be on holes stroke index 1 through 12 - where the higher handicapper would normally be recieving 2 shots on holes stroke index 1 - 10, now on the day only 1 shot - which mentally will effect his thoughts and probably play on these holes.

So for the remaining 6 holes where the higher handicapper would recieve a shot - they do not - so the lower handicapper is more than favourite.

Seems pretty balanced to me.

 

Sean

 

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John Pettitt


Handicap : 18

Reply : Tue 21st Sep 2010 10:36

I played with a 23 handicap player the other day and on the sixth hole he received two shots. It is a par five and after two shots he was on the apron of the green, nett nothing. How on earth can anyone play against that.

 

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Sean Goucher


Handicap : 20.8

Reply : Tue 21st Sep 2010 10:49

I presume that was either a stroke play event or just fun. Not a match play event.

Surely - you would have recieved 1 shot aswell - as the 6th must have a SI of 1 - 5? You can't have been that far away with a net 1?

In matchplay - the difference of 8 would be reduced to 6 (3/4 difference) - and 2 shots in the context of this Matchplay Series would never have come into it.

I bet through matchplay you would have won the match?

Sean

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Darren Ramowski

[FORUM MODERATOR]
Handicap : 21

Reply : Tue 21st Sep 2010 11:34

Keep the comments/feedback coming guys plus any teams interested in playing!

Out of interest, anyone object to the existing North vs South format we play ? and anyone noticed any unbalanced results due to handicaps ?

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Martin Millichip


Handicap : 5.8

Reply : Tue 21st Sep 2010 12:00

Darren,

This is a definite "If it ain't broke don't fix it" scenario. The format for the N v S is great and has been very successful since it's inception.

The only way I see a possible change is if we went to two days and played fourball/foursomes first day and singles on the second and final day.

 

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John Pettitt


Handicap : 18

Reply : Tue 21st Sep 2010 12:12

Sean, in this particular case it was the mid-week stableford and yes I do get 1 shot there myself as it is stroke 1 but after my normal 2 shots I am usually left with about 160 yards to go for my third. I only make par 50% of the time I play it.

I play with very long hitters and sometimes they make the course look ridiculous.

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John Pettitt


Handicap : 18

Reply : Tue 21st Sep 2010 12:16

Foursomes/singles would be my choice if I were running it, but as I am not, then I go with whatever the format is.

This is the format for the Ryder Cup as well as all county and scratch league clubs.

Fourball better ball is not the way to go in my opinion. To much good or bad fortune involved for me.

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Sean Goucher


Handicap : 20.8

Reply : Tue 21st Sep 2010 12:28

Dont you just hate long hitters. I do take your points on board.

Cheers

Sean

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Martin Millichip


Handicap : 5.8

Reply : Tue 21st Sep 2010 13:09

On further reflection, maybe switch to foursomes/singles matchplay as John has stated. I don't think this would take anything away from the event.

As far as handicapping goes:-

Singles - Full difference

Foursomes - 1/2 Combined handicap

I personally would welcome any change on these lines.

More for you to think about Darren 

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John Pettitt


Handicap : 18

Reply : Tue 21st Sep 2010 14:25

Sean, I believe that you played with my long hitting mates at The Wychwood, David Ley and Darren Atkinson, so you will see where I am coming from.

We have a young policeman off 23 who hits the ball just as far as them and with the shots he gets he can be quite a handfull, yes he has his bad holes, but he also has many good ones, which in a fourball better ball makes life very difficult.

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John Pettitt


Handicap : 18

Reply : Tue 21st Sep 2010 14:30

Foursomes is the truest test in my opinion because both players have to contribute, whereas, sometimes in fourball better ball only one player is doing all the work.

I much prefer the old rule of 3/4 difference for singles matchplay and 3/8ths of the combined for foursomes, but seeing as the R & A, (in their wisdom) have changed everything to suit the higher handicap player then I will just have to accept the rules as they are.

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Sean Goucher


Handicap : 20.8

Reply : Tue 21st Sep 2010 14:45

John

You are correct - I did play with Dave and Darren - and yes they are long hitters.

They were also extemely good company - and a hell of a laugh.

They played me off full handicap - and still whooped my behind - LOL

I was getting something like 12 shots more than one of them - but to no avail.

As soon as money comes into it - the low handicappers step up their game ;-)

Sean

 

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Darren Millichip


Handicap : 7.8

Reply : Tue 21st Sep 2010 15:47

I understand where you are all coming from with foursomes, its a format which has been suggested before and also met with some resistance from some people as "i am not paying for a round of golf only to hit half the normal shots" agian understandable

personally i dont mind playing whatever format it is decided on at the start, although i would also like to see a texas scramble event added at some point

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John Pettitt


Handicap : 18

Reply : Tue 21st Sep 2010 15:53
Those kind of players we can well do without, Darrren as it is obvious that the actual match is not their priority.
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John Mcgaffney


Handicap : 26.8

Reply : Tue 21st Sep 2010 21:05
yes i am in sounds great me and  mark aughney cheers big man we need to get some practice in
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Graham Lock


Handicap : 15.1

Reply : Wed 22nd Sep 2010 02:22

I think I fit in the middle of the handicap discussion, probably around 16 on Gs at the moment have a few rounds to enter, so could be receiving 8 shots or giving them (or 3/4 of them)

 maybe some stats that back up the current formula are here:

http://www.congu.com/template1.asp?pid=25

I am all for a level playing field and Congu seem to have created a levlish playing field with the bias still slightly towards the lower handicapper.

@Roger:

 >> I played with a 23 handicap player the other day and on the sixth hole he received two shots <<

The Above in a matchplay thread imples that you should be playing off of 4 or less it takes a read further down the thread to understand that you were just playing with rather than agaist th eperosn in question. Long can be great but can also be a problem with any wayward element incresed, do you think this guy is playing off an incorrect handicap? What points did he score for the round?

I would agree with others that thsi should be open to all handicaps at their designated h'cap and not eliminate in theory 25% of the field up front 

 

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John Pettitt


Handicap : 18

Reply : Wed 22nd Sep 2010 08:25
http://www.congu.com/template1.asp?pid=25 A myth in itself.
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Paul Melling


Handicap : 19.1

Reply : Wed 22nd Sep 2010 08:37

I agree that your handicap is a representation of your golfing potential rather than what you shoot week in, week out. I've knocked 6 shots off my handicap this summer by having 4-5 really good rounds. Believe me, the rest of my rounds have been very ordinary.

I seem to remember reading somewhere (maybe on the Congu site - somewhere to do with end of season handicap adjustments at clubs) that a high handicapper would be expected to average about 7(?) shots over his handicap over the course of a season.

So beware the player who always plays to his handicap. Having said that, there is a guy in our society that goes round fairly consistently most weeks, and I can vouch that he is honest in his shots and handicap. Very frustrating!!

No system is going to be perfect, I think the Congu system is fairly good. I'm suffering at the moment because of my good rounds in the summer. My solution? Keep playing, keep practicing and get better... hopefully...

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John Pettitt


Handicap : 18

Reply : Wed 22nd Sep 2010 09:47

Handicaps used to be based on ones best round under summer conditions played off the back tees in a competition. Players moved up or down whole strokes at a time, none of this decimal rubbish.

This meant that in a medal, most of the time a nett par round would have a chance of winning. In a bogey comp one would have had to play their best golf to finish all square. Stablefords never counted toward ones handicap as they were considered just a fun competition for points, not strokes.

When I mentioned to my present club why we had no Bogey competitions I was met with a blank expression. They had never even heard of the format. Now it has been introduced it normally requires a five or six up to win, something that never happened under the old system. You may consider this progress, but I don't.

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Tim Greaves


Handicap : 9

Reply : Wed 22nd Sep 2010 12:54

I have read all the comments about maximum handicaps for the pairs competition, so here is my take on it.

 We should NEVER do anything to put off high handicappers from continuing to play and improve !

Having a 28 maximum would indeed put off lower handicappers.

If this is to be a comp rather than your standard Society day out (fun), some middle ground needs to be found.

I agree with what we did at N v S.    Lowest handicap off full allowance and the others 3/4 difference.

 This worked well and nobody would be put off from entering !!!

This is my idea, let mw know what you think ?

Ps In mine and your case John Flood, we always need our partners help !!!

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Graham Lock


Handicap : 15.1

Reply : Wed 22nd Sep 2010 20:37

Very odd refreshed the page and it posted again.

 Anyway to clarify one point People should play off of thier Full handicap and then as it is better Ball pairs 3/4 difference off the lowest handicap.

However if you have a 12 and 18 playing a 20 & 24 then the 18 would get 5 shots the 20 6 shots and the 24 9 shots.

What was being proposed was that the 20 & 24 woul dbe limited to play off 18 and so would only receive 5 shots each

Graham

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Chris Perry

[FORUM MODERATOR]
Handicap : 13.4

Reply : Wed 22nd Sep 2010 22:26

Lowest off scratch, everyone else 3/4 the difference.  Standard for the majority of matchplay games I've ever played in.  Lower of Official club and Golfshake handicap top be used. 

The cream will always rise to the top and bandits will quickly stand out a mile

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Tim Greaves


Handicap : 9

Reply : Wed 22nd Sep 2010 22:38
Thats what i was trying not so elequently to say LOL.
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Dave ley


Handicap : 9.7

Reply : Wed 22nd Sep 2010 23:49

"Lowest off scratch, everyone else 3/4 the difference.  Standard for the majority of matchplay games I've ever played in.  Lower of Official club and Golfshake handicap top be used."

 

I'm happy with that   

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Dean Elliott


Handicap : 18.2

Reply : Fri 1st Oct 2010 18:44
David Marshall and myself with our home course being South Winchester are in
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Alan Gunnigle


Handicap : 10.7

Reply : Fri 1st Oct 2010 19:04
myself and jon crickmore for the NW please
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John Sweeney


Handicap : 11.4

Reply : Sun 17th Oct 2010 14:45
If anyone requires a partner for South East or South West, would be great to be included.
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John Tyler


Handicap : 17.2

Reply : Mon 18th Oct 2010 11:37
I would happy to play 1. if its not to late and 2. I can get a partner somewhere in the south west.
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Dave ley


Handicap : 9.7

Reply : Mon 18th Oct 2010 11:40
Nice one Deano ,hope we get drawn you pair,
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David Marshall


Handicap : 9.9

Reply : Mon 18th Oct 2010 11:57
Oh So do we Leyo...Then we can knock you out of the competition  
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Dave ley


Handicap : 9.7

Reply : Mon 18th Oct 2010 13:55
You have to admire optimism dont you i'ts just aswell Deano has a strong back.
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David Marshall


Handicap : 9.9

Reply : Mon 18th Oct 2010 15:46

It's confidence, not optimism.  Just as well you have strong legs and a low cetre of gravity, cause your partner will have a lot of carrying to do otherwise

 

 

Last edit : Mon 18th Oct 2010 15:49
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Dave ley


Handicap : 9.7

Reply : Mon 18th Oct 2010 20:39
Good likeness :;smile::
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Alfred Pickard


Handicap : 9

Reply : Tue 16th Nov 2010 11:19

I am interested in the proposed matchplay series 2011,

My team:  Alfred M Pickard hcp10 and Ben Pickard hcp16

Please keep me informed.

Alfred Pickard

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Paul Skinner


Handicap : 17.3

Reply : Tue 16th Nov 2010 11:59

Hi   we would  definately be interested in the matchplay series,we would be in the northwest area.

paul skinner 18

tim shone      7

keep me informed

 

Paul Skinner

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John Standing


Handicap : 16

Reply : Wed 17th Nov 2010 16:30

Paul Smith & John standing - Southern area - definitley interested

Look forward to getting the details of where to apply.

 

Cheers

 

John

Last edit : Tue 5th Apr 2011 12:06
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Paul Melling


Handicap : 19.1

Reply : Tue 18th Jan 2011 17:29

What's happening with this? Really looking forward to getting going with it.

Need more practice in playing competitions

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Dave ley


Handicap : 9.7

Reply : Tue 18th Jan 2011 20:18

Just what i've been thinking

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Darren Ramowski

[FORUM MODERATOR]
Handicap : 21

Reply : Tue 18th Jan 2011 20:20

Info within the next week. Looks like enough teams/regions so finalising final format/venue etc along with other GS events

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Paul Melling


Handicap : 19.1

Reply : Tue 18th Jan 2011 20:28

Great stuff. Can't wait.

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Tony Smith


Handicap : 21.4

Reply : Fri 28th Jan 2011 20:05

Hi Adam,

Is it too late to join the competition ? If not please enter myself, Tony Smith 22.7 and my son Dave Smith 12.7 We are based in the north east

Thanks

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Chris Perry

[FORUM MODERATOR]
Handicap : 13.4

Reply : Sun 30th Jan 2011 00:27

I want to join in with this, but I have two issues at the moment: -

1. I have moved house and know no golfers round here yet

2. I have moved house and have yet to pick a home course in the area

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Darren Ramowski

[FORUM MODERATOR]
Handicap : 21

Reply : Sun 30th Jan 2011 14:24

Tony, all fine.

Chris, will add you to nomad no partner list

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Mark Aughney


Handicap : 14.2

Reply : Thu 10th Feb 2011 21:34

Any update on this?

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Darren Ramowski

[FORUM MODERATOR]
Handicap : 21

Reply : Mon 14th Feb 2011 08:16

Hi Mark, update this week.  Just trawling through the last list of players interested.

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Tony Smith


Handicap : 21.4

Reply : Mon 28th Feb 2011 19:06

Hi, Any further news on this yet ?

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Stuart Govan


Handicap : 11.5

Reply : Mon 28th Feb 2011 23:53
John (Sweeney), I am happy to link up with you for this.Darren, can you pair me and John to play against David Marshall so that I can kick his a*se? Thanks, much appreciated
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Tim Hawkins


Handicap : 16.2

Reply : Tue 1st Mar 2011 00:21

Image

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David Marshall


Handicap : 9.9

Reply : Tue 1st Mar 2011 09:06

Hmmm....... Govan posting just before midnight.

 

Showing his usual Delusional Behaviour.  

Mad as a March hare..Got a bit of spring fever.  Totally loopy.     Round the twist. Completely barking bonkers.

 

Still the same old Stuart...................................

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John Pettitt


Handicap : 18

Reply : Tue 1st Mar 2011 09:32

Darren, would you please add me to your list of players without a partner - Thanks.

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David Marshall


Handicap : 9.9

Reply : Tue 1st Mar 2011 09:47

That's only cause you don't need one.

You old rascal

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Paul Hindmarsh


Handicap : 9.3

Reply : Tue 1st Mar 2011 11:28

I'm in too, partnerless however.

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Stuart Govan


Handicap : 11.5

Reply : Tue 1st Mar 2011 11:39

Likewise if John Sweeney has found another partner then please include me as a lone player at this stage.

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Anton Prior


Handicap : 12.4

Reply : Thu 17th Mar 2011 14:43

Hi

Just wish to show a keen interest in Matchplay series, details below

Anton Prior - 12 handicap

Paul Folley - 17 handicap i think

Home course Cobtree, Kent

Team Name - Rank Outsiders

Not sure what else needed or if this is correct way to show interest?

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Tony Smith


Handicap : 21.4

Reply : Thu 17th Mar 2011 17:45

Confirmation of Registration

Tony Smith 22.8

Dave Smith 12.7

Team Name . Smith Snr & Jnr

Home course . Stressholme GC , Darlington

League - North East

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Kevin Hewitt


Handicap : 11.6

Reply : Thu 17th Mar 2011 20:57

I'm up for this with Dave Ley as my partner.

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Mark Aughney


Handicap : 14.2

Reply : Fri 18th Mar 2011 20:59

McGaff and myself are still up for this!!!!

Home courses - Easter Moffat GC, East Renfrewshire GC

Handicaps - Badly!!!!!!

Team Name - Nobody????

What you think McGaff

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Paul Melling


Handicap : 19.1

Reply : Sat 19th Mar 2011 13:54

Just to confirm that home course for Paul Melling & Raffaello Cowan-Boscardi will be East Brighton.

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Mally Grief


Handicap : 20.1

Reply : Sat 19th Mar 2011 17:10

mally grief and craig stevenson,north east

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Scott Bracci


Handicap : 10.5

Reply : Sat 19th Mar 2011 17:13

Im in,

Scott Bracci (12.5) & Justin Rowden (21)

Home course Burnham on Crouch

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Michael Gallacher


Handicap : 21.4

Reply : Sun 20th Mar 2011 15:15

Michael Gallacher (21) Michael Collins (22)

Home Course Colmworth Bedfordshire Area East

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Paul Hindmarsh


Handicap : 9.3

Reply : Sun 20th Mar 2011 18:45

Myself back in with Ian Prince, home course Stratford Oaks GC

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Jonathan Crickmore


Handicap : 18.5

Reply : Mon 21st Mar 2011 10:45

Hi Adam

 

If I'm allowed to be in two teams can I also enter with Alan Gunnigle - home course Souhtport Golf Links.

If not just let my entry with Steve Campbell stand.

 

Thanks

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Pete Salsbury


Handicap : 18.6

Reply : Mon 21st Mar 2011 14:05

Hi there, this looks a top format. Never done anything like this but I'll try anything once (or four times?)

Pete Salsbury (21) & Ged Sturdy (24)

Team Name: Monkey Trousers

Home Club: Blakes (Essex)

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John Pettitt


Handicap : 18

Reply : Mon 21st Mar 2011 15:46

I am still looking for a partner, Reading area.

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Mark Ruth


Handicap : 17.7

Reply : Mon 21st Mar 2011 19:13

Mark Ruth 22.4

Gary Richards 23.1

Home Club Dunwood manor Romsey Hampshire

Team Name Romsey Hookers

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Chris Perry

[FORUM MODERATOR]
Handicap : 13.4

Reply : Wed 23rd Mar 2011 13:05

Looking for a partner in or around Stroud (Cheltenham, Gloucester, Cirencester, North Bristol, etc)

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Alan Gunnigle


Handicap : 10.7

Reply : Wed 23rd Mar 2011 17:04

jon, let your partnership with steve stand and i'll see if i can get some one to make up the pairing.....

partner wanted, liverpool/lancs/manchester area, i have a home course or use yours (whom ever you be)

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Kenny Chance


Handicap : 18.5

Reply : Thu 24th Mar 2011 17:24

What happens next.  When is the draw taking place?  Cheers. Ken

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Scott Binch


Handicap : 19

Reply : Sun 27th Mar 2011 23:38

Love to take part

Scott Binch 20 & Paul Barnard 22

Home Course - Stoke Albany Golf Club, Leicestershire.

Team name - Ironwood

Last edit : Mon 28th Mar 2011 13:50
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Dave ley


Handicap : 9.7

Reply : Mon 28th Mar 2011 01:18

Dave Ley & Kev Hewitt

Team name: Dragons

Home course : Bryn meadows (Gwent)

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Darren Ramowski

[FORUM MODERATOR]
Handicap : 21

Reply : Mon 28th Mar 2011 09:58

Cool, keep them coming on the last push to finalise teams.

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Russell Middleton

[FORUM MODERATOR]
Handicap : 14.8

Reply : Mon 28th Mar 2011 18:19

We are up for this competition.

 

Players

Russell Middleton

Graham Lock

 

Home Course

Stapleford Abbotts (Abbotts Course)

 

Team Name

Two Mad Monks

Last edit : Mon 28th Mar 2011 18:20
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Lee Coomber


Handicap : 20.7

Reply : Tue 29th Mar 2011 12:49

Players

Lee Coomber (19)

Dan Parnell (23)

Home Course 

Woodhall Hills (Yorkshire)

Team Name

CAP KAM

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Daniel Mould


Handicap : 11.7

Reply : Mon 4th Apr 2011 13:40

Mould and Cole

Home Course Meon Valley

South Region.

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Russell Middleton

[FORUM MODERATOR]
Handicap : 14.8

Reply : Tue 5th Apr 2011 08:30

I think we need to get started with these games.

What with the singles matchplay and the pairs matchplay, on both courses making time for extra events will take some juggling.

Russ

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Gerard Keeley


Handicap : 22.7

Reply : Tue 5th Apr 2011 09:13

PLAYERS

Ged Keeley 22

Gary Spears 15

HOME COURSE

Allerton Golf Course

TEAM NAME

N,W.G.S. Bandits

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Keith Pick


Handicap : 20.2

Reply : Thu 7th Apr 2011 14:39

im not too sure on the handicapping or how it all works out as far as organising games but myself (23) and Neil evans (25) will be up for a game.  Home course is Brookfield, Cheshire

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Darren Ramowski

[FORUM MODERATOR]
Handicap : 21

Reply : Fri 8th Apr 2011 11:44

Russ just to confirm the idea with this is to run a league where you play say 3 other teams over a 6 month period.  Hopefully this should be easier enough to squeeze in.

The society v society will not conflict with this and possible may just be a knock out cup but likely due to the logistics be run over 18 months rather than focused to just 2011.

I'm just updating teams now

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Darren Ramowski

[FORUM MODERATOR]
Handicap : 21

Reply : Fri 8th Apr 2011 12:36

Hi all, pleae check you are listed on this page

http://www.golfshake.com/forums/view/8254/Golfshake_Matchplay_Series_Last_C
hance_to_Register.html

Last chance to register is Tues 12th April

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John Coady


Handicap : 25.8

Reply : Mon 11th Apr 2011 18:00

Anyone desperate for a partner in the NorthWest?
According to GS I am playing off 26 (28 realistically).

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Christian Reed


Handicap : 20.3

Reply : Mon 11th Apr 2011 22:43

Christian Reed (20.8) & Richard Southam (25.9)

North East Area

Home Course, Mount Oswald, Durham.

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John Coady


Handicap : 25.8

Reply : Mon 11th Apr 2011 23:59

 

Players

John Coady - 26 handicap

Andy Wright - 18 handicap

Region

North West

Home course

Walton Hall Golf Course (Pay and Play)

Team Name 

Walton Wanderers

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Toby Topcott


Handicap : 11.6

Reply : Tue 3rd May 2011 14:58

Sounds like fun! 

Players

Toby Topcott 14.7

Julian Wisbey 12.3

Home Course

Stapleford Abbotts (Priors Course)

Team Name

Meet the Meat

 

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Darren Ramowski

[FORUM MODERATOR]
Handicap : 21

Reply : Thu 5th May 2011 16:31

update here, down to you or help needed: 

http://glfs.hk/izlybP

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Darren Ramowski

[FORUM MODERATOR]
Handicap : 21

Reply : Tue 23rd Aug 2011 14:24

Any more results to come in yet ?

http://www.golfshake.com/news/view/1749/Proposed_Golfshake_Match_Play_Series_2
011.html

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