HELLO

      this is my first post,as i have only joined in the last few days.My question is i suppose very silly really but, i have just bought a powacaddy golf bag with a view to getting a powacaddy s3 electric trolley,however having read a few reviews i find that powacaddy are not all that they re made out to be.i have just found out on this site that GOCART seem very good and they have  a excellent review,so would my powacaddy golf bag fit a GOCART electric trolley any help would be very much appreciated,i hope this post is where it is supposed to be,if not please accept my apologies.

                 regards tony 

Unless you are disabled,  I would suggest that you buy a lightweight carry bag and don't join the herd that wishes to go around in 4/5 hours.

Out the wrong side of the bed this morning John?  Not very welcoming or helpful response to someone's first post. 

Welcome Tony.  I believe the Go-Kart folds down slightly smaller than the Powerkaddy.  If that's the case, it should fit just fine.

Not in the least, Chris, I gave my honest opinion, and if that is not allowed then, tough.

If we carry on the way we are in the name of progress then I fully expect to see electric trollies with small trailers to carry the barbecue round, as it seems to me that golf has changed from a serious game to a picnic.

Ten minutes was what it took to play a hole for a fourball, now it takes ten minutes to get a fourball off the tee.

We used to play morning, afternoon and evening, now it is one round in the day.

Honest opinion is fine John and we all know your opinions on slow play (one I happen to share).  However, Tony has made his personal choice based on what he feels is best for him and influenced by some of the comments on here.  He asked for some advice on whether he would be able to use his bag with a different trolley, not whether he should carry or not. 

Your comment came across as somewhat belittling and off topic, which is why I made my statement. 

He He He. . . . . . . You can always count on John.

Tony, welcome to the site. 

I too have read some unfavourable reviews on Motocaddy trollies but if you read deaper you will find that they seem to have sorted all the axle and battery problems out on the new 2010 versions.

My wife bought me a S1 for my birthday (as I am awaiting an operation on my knee, John) and it really is a smashing piece of kit. Dont write Motocaddy off as all too often we have to wait for the second and third versions of things for them to be bug free. Just look at the ipod and iphone.

OK, I will answer the question. The problems with all electric trollies is that they are abused, by expecting them to carry too much weight, over terrrain that is not suitable for such flimsy design and quality of materials used in construction.

thank you mr chris perry,i did find johns comment earlier a little sharp,however i can live with that,and thank you for a very excellent web site.

thank you  phil bennet,i have now decided to go with the gocart,as the s3 powacaddy is costing aroiund £379 where as the gocart comes in at £224+p&p quite a large difference.also have been reading reviews on the GOCART and have not read a bad review yet,although like everything i suppose you can get a bad one sometimes.By the way phil hope your knee op is a success.(A chap i know had a new knee but they put it on back to front now he don't know if he is coming or going.)good luck mate.

                                 tony 

Thanks Tony. . . . . . .Am asking for the 18 holes in 40 minutes op just in case I'm ever on a course in front of John ;-)

Hope your knee operation goes better than mine did, Phil. Still not right after 18 months.

Thanks John. It's only an arthroscopy I need so could well be playing 2 weeks after the op

I had an athroscopy first and was in so much pain after two months that I had to crawl into the orthopaedic department to somehow send them the message of the disaster they had performed. In their favour I will say that they immediately put me up for the knee replacement, but once again it was only a half knee and the inside part at that. I was in severe pain for 10 weeks after this operation and even though they were prepared to give me a complete new knee I had to decline, for obvious reasons.

The only saving grace was that it was over the winter period so I did not lose out too much on the golf.

I need an operation on my rotator cuff in my right shoulder and they want to operate, but I have decided to wait until wintertimé again, knowing that I am likely to be in pain for some time afterwards.

I wish you better luck, Phil

You should get yourself an electric trolley John

well gentlemen all i can say,is JOHN perhaps it would be well worth your while mate getting an electric trolley mate,because sounds like carrying your lightweight golf bag around has not done your knee any good at all,welcome to the herd buddy???????  phil take no notice mate,perhaps johns surgeon also used an electric golf trolley,and took exception to being part of the herd that took 4-5 hours to go round  a case of getting your own back,i would say.

 regards  tony 

Tony, I am long past the electric trolley stage, I am now having to use a buggy for every round.

I carried until I was 62 when I had my first heart attack. On my return to golf 8 years later I found it difficult to get round carrying so I purchased an electric trolley and, quite honestly I found them pretty hard work as well, so dispensed with them and now use the buggy.

It is funny though, even with all the health problems I have had, it still does not take me more than 10 seconds to take a club, hit the ball and put it back.

As regards me joining the herd, unfortunately I have no choice with the speed of play now prevelant on the courses in this country now.

ok john 

      sorry to hear about your health problems mate,think this has gone on far to much now,i however hope i can still play this great game when i reach your age,and also admire your determination to keep playing. thank you for your reply to my post,and look forward to many more posts from you in the future.keep well john.

regards  tony 

Thank you, Tony,

The problem for me is that I started playing this game in the fifties and I have seen a tremendous change in everything that has become associated with it.

Progress, what is progress? it is supposed to mean that things have become better, but in golf, I'm afraid they have gone backwards in many respects and I always get referred to as the old fuddy duddy who resents change.

I do feel, however that were any of my detractors around in the same period, then they would have exactly the same views as I hold now.

I wish you well in your golfing career and sincerely hope that you get the same satisfaction from this wonderful game as I have been fortunate to have.

thank you john

              progress depends on how you view it, sometimes it does not mean that things get better for some,but also it gets better for lots of others,if you see what i mean. however if i can reach the level that you have attained, then i will be more than happy,as i am a late starter to golf.

       tony 

remember the magic carpet John ?

Hi Tony and welcome to the forum.

Being young, fit and healthy (tongue in cheek!) I don't yet require an electric trolley.

During the winter months I carry my clubs, then when the rounds take much longer in the summer months I use a push trolley.

Russ

Tony you will not be disappointed with your go-kart, they are a quality piece of equipment and very well built. They look so much better than the metal framed electric trollies and unfold in seconds, click the battery in place and off you go. Your powakaddy bag will fit no problems at all.

Interesting thread this, not least because I do actually agree with Johns opinions on this, I reckon if you're fit enough to carry then you should.  I used to use a pull trolley and am convinced that when I started carrying my back problems all but stopped, certainly less than when I used a pull cart, and that's with me lugging 12.5kg of kit around with me (just weighed it).  Amusingly today when we played, three of us carried and one used a powercaddy (admitedly an older spare one) and we spent a lot of time waiting for wheels to be replaced until finally it collapsed completely on the 15th...

thank you gentlemen for your comments,the reason i asked was i played a couple of courses a couple of weeks ago,and a lot of the fairways were very long and steep,and although i have a push pull trolley i really did find it exhausting,and just thought that a power trolley of any make really would help when playing these type of courses. i will of course still keep the push trolley for those less physical courses.i settled on the gocart trolley after reading some very poor reviews on the market leaders, and also their after sales seem to be very good,which to me, like a lot of other people, is a key point when making a purchase.

thank you once again for you input and time taken.

 regards  tony 

Tim, you forgot to mention, it was an older electric trolley, as the new one collapsed last week!

Its also fair to say, Powerkaddy are not Malcolm's favourite compnay at the moment.....

As for carrying, i would agree. Even thought i have a Robbokaddy (which you can try and run people over with when you are not playing well), i have been carrying for the last few months and have enjoyed it a lot more. 

Even thinking of selling my Robbokaddy, as it just sits in the garage doing nothing but taking up space, especially as i also have a Powerkaddy large tor bag to go on it, which is also taking up space....

Carrying is the shortest way round a course.

Unless you are disabled,  I would suggest that you buy a lightweight carry bag and don't join the herd that wishes to go around in 4/5 hours.

John just back from a trip 108 holes in 3 days in 3 and 4 balls nothing over 3 3/4 hrs with carry bag 60 next birthday.

I wish that that the corporate members and their guests and visitors could get round The Warwickshire in 5 hours that would be a dream. I have this year only completed about 3 rounds without coming off early, 12th or 14th it's a disgrace. So I will be moving on next year maybe Ingon Manor or Brailes will have to play a few other locals before I decide but one decision has been made, The Warwickshire is having no more of my money and untill my membership expires the "Course Marshalls" (JOKE) will have stick they are worse than useless at best.

Must admit that 5 hours IS a long time to take but fail to see how it can be the fault of electric trollies. My new one has 9 speed settings and anything above 6 you are nearly jogging to keep up with it.

i do stand by a post I made months ago though, that beginners to the game will take longer to complete a course because they hit more wayward shots. As long as faster or more experienced players are allowed to play through then I dont see a problem.

John just back from a trip 108 holes in 3 days in 3 and 4 balls nothing over 3 3/4 hrs with carry bag 60 next birthday.01

Well done, Bob, nice to see someone on the same wavelength. When I was sixty I carried and played 3 rounds at Camberley Heath Golf club with my eldest son off 7 handicap and my friend whom I taught to play, also off 7. I was 6 at the time. I might add that we had breakfast and lunch between the rounds also.

I just cannot believe the way the game has gone, even the juniors at my club all have electric trollies.

Only the young good players carry their bags these days.

Must admit that in recent weeks I've got my Sun Mountain Micro Trolley out. Not because I'm a lazy sod who can't carry but because with the amount of Golf I've had to play, standing around with a bag of club on my back for that length of time may have crippled me.

 The problem I've encountered is the 5 hour rounds of Golf. I'm not standing carrying my clubs for that length of time. On the occasions I've played without people in front of me, I've completed 18 holes with a group in about 2 hours. But for whatever reason once I get into a Medal or a Stableford everything in front of me seems to grind to a halt.

I played a Stableford last Wednesday, started off in my 3 Ball at 7:45, came off the 18th Green at 1:15pm. That day I couldn't so much as blame trolleys for the slow play but the senile old people attached to them at times, with so much ignorance and poor attitudes to everyone else. Yes there were trolley issues i.e. People leaving them in the wrong places, meaning swift exits from holes or to there next shot were compromised. However it seemed more to me the actual golfer themself causing the issues.

 One guy on a Par 3 plays 3 shots to find a greenside bunker, he then takes 7 shots to get out of bunker, then spends 5 minutes failing miserably to rake it back to the state it was in when he came to it, then he went and got his putter and proceeded to 3 putt and hole out. Now my group on the tee stand there jaws on the floor, fuming with anger. Why? Its a Stableford what the hell is the guy doing playing out when he'd taken 3 shots and still not got to the green? You can't score you pick up and move on.

This happened on several holes and never once did this group offer to let us play through, nor did they grant our request when we caught up to them several times on the tee and asked if we could go through.

The whole round was ruined for us behind them and pretty much everyone else on the course behind them.

Only good thing for me was having the trolley I'd got enough supplies to last me the day. Nice tuppaware box full of chinese food, some lovely spare ribs in batter. If I had to be out there that long, had to make the most of it.

Beware the PW warranty. I am based in Belgium and bought a PW II over the internet from a golf shop in the UK. The battary failed within the warranty period but to qualify for the warranty I had to return it to the UK at my own expense as the warranty only applies in the country you bought it in. 

I tried to persudae them that it would be a lot easier all round if I went to my local agent in Belgium but they wouldn't allow that.

They replaced the battery under warranty but it cost me €60 in postage there and back.

The same rules apply if you are a UK resident and buy it there but move outside the UK for personal or business reasons 

Within the first 2 years of owning my PW II, the drive axle broke (I am based in the flat lands of Belgium, not the highlands of Scotland).

The battery also failed within 2 years.

I bought my PW having been told it is the market leader - heaven help the others