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Matt HargravesHandicap : 23.5 Posted : Sun 7th Mar 2010 17:08 |
I ve been reading which is always a bad sign I just need to understand the science behind this. Pro v's are soft and spin well mis hits will result in lots of sidespin and needs a swing speed of 100mph say. the pro v 1x is harder spins less and mis hits will not have has much side spin as the pro v but needs a faster swing speed. so say if you want the stopping and softness of the pro v your going to have to hit it more square else your in trouble. But surly the pro v x should be aimed at players who are a bit more inconsistent as the bad shots wont be as bad? so why the high swing speed?
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John PettittHandicap : 16.6 Reply : Sun 7th Mar 2010 17:19 |
so why the high swing speed? It must be a high compression ball, Matt and only a fast swing speed will be able to get the best from the ball. Only those with plenty of money and an ego to match, play with them. There are far kinder balls in the marketplace that suit us hackers much better. Now that my Z balatas are no longer in production I am now using the Bridgestone treosoft. My problem is not stopping it, but getting it to go. |
Lewis Gladstone-buchananHandicap : 18.3 Reply : Sun 7th Mar 2010 17:51 |
| John the hacker......! Now I've yet to meet you JP - but a hacker I'm sure 'your' not. |
Christopher WatmoreHandicap : 0 Reply : Sun 7th Mar 2010 17:57 |
Pro V1x are harder then Pro V1 are they Matt? Pretty sure you'll find thats a misconception and a wives tale. The difference between a Pro V1 and Pro V1x is that one has 392 dimples and the X has 332. This means playing with an X you'll generate less spin with Driver and Long Irons then you would with a Pro V1. Without short irons and wedges you'll find no difference in how the ball performs. Basically if your someone with a tendency to draw or fade shots with your long clubs, try a Pro V1x to keep the ball straighter. |
Lewis Gladstone-buchananHandicap : 18.3 Reply : Sun 7th Mar 2010 18:13 |
I've never spent my hard earned on Pro V balls....but I have three V1's and 2 V1x's that I found.....They are balls I can't seem to lose and the V1x does seem to go straighter more easily.
I also found a bridgestone B330 tour....I think it is called - this also seems a good ball.
The balls I have actually paid for are Wilson DX2 soft, I bought them after finding one and they just seem to come off the face nicely with both the driver and irons |
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Matt HargravesHandicap : 23.5 Reply : Sun 7th Mar 2010 19:26 |
thanks all. I have been playing with the nike one gold and recently the nike platinum which not knowing the science behind them may or may not be the right ball but it does work for me. been playing with any ball this winter with mixed results better weather today so back on the platinum ones and straighter and nicer for me. only thing is im running out of them so looking for something similar. They do feel heavey off the driver face dunno if that means anything. I have been toying with the idea of bridgestone 330s, 330 or 330Rx but unsure which. With our greens i need more stop than distance, so although a nxt tour would be recomended it doesnt have enough bite for our slippy greens |
Tim HawkinsHandicap : 14.8 Reply : Mon 8th Mar 2010 00:37 |
Ball science - now that made me prick up my ears. Too late to go into detail, but I'll just chuck a couple of scientifically correct facts rather than marketing hype. 1) There is no standard for compression ratings on balls, and even if there was it would be fairly meaningless. Balls are engineered with various layers of material of differing elasticity, so using a standard compression test (just applying a force to the static ball) would be useless as the differing layers release their energy at different rates. 2) The softness of the ball is not really related to the amount of spin that can be imparted, top end Bridgestones have a harder but thinner skin than the equivalent Pro V - but this allows plenty of spin* to be generated if the ball is hit as hard as it is designed for. 3) The amount and pattern of dimples on a ball has got nothing to do with the way a ball flies (obviously there is minimum number, having 3 dimples would be just stupid), it's only the depth that matters**. The depth promotes a thin boundary layer of slower moving air over the ball surface which 'sticks' to the surface - it's dragged round the perimeterin the direction of spin and creates lower pressure above the ball - making it rise. Side spin is the same but just acts in different planes. * Mr Pettitt and my brother can attest to this - both seem to use balls that are only one step up from a marble but both are able to generate, and control, spin. ** It's a bit more complicated than that actually - ball flight is effected by all sorts of other stuff, temperature, atmospheric pressure, relative humidity and velocity to name a few. |
*sanderslongdrive *Handicap : Reply : Mon 8th Mar 2010 19:56 |
Lewis, JP was a top golfer some years ago http://www.golfshake.com/news/view/1109/My_Journey_through_the_wonderful_game_of P.S. I don't know how he found out about my money and inflated ego. |
| Last edit : Fri 12th Mar 2010 13:57 |
John PettittHandicap : 16.6 Reply : Mon 8th Mar 2010 20:16 |
| Ivan, you are forgetting that I have stayed at your house a few times. Anyone who has oak panelled rooms must be loaded. |
Lewis Gladstone-buchananHandicap : 18.3 Reply : Mon 8th Mar 2010 21:27 |
| unless his home is an oak tree house.......now that would be fun |
Wayne SantoriniHandicap : 0 Reply : Mon 8th Mar 2010 22:21 |
Agree with you there JP ![]() |
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