mizuno mx 15 irons

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Jason Vickers

Had these irons a couple of years now custom fitted from new. I really seem to struggle with them. Had a series of lessons to sort my swing out but i am still struggling to use these irons. I have not got a registered handicap but i play of about 25.

Has anyone else had problems using these irons as i think they are not really for the higher handicap golfer.

Paul Everett

Jason Vickers

Hi Paul sorry should of said i just seem to fat everything i probably hit 2 good shots out of 10 at the range and on the course well you dont want to know.

When i had them custom fitted i had thicker grips, half inch longer shafts and they also altered the lie of the clubs by 2 degrees.

Paul Everett

As you are most likely aware, fat shots are caused by hitting the ground before the ball due to either the ball being too far forward, not sufficient weight transfer, too steep a downswing etc. I'm not sure if the clubs themselves would cause any of the faults I know of which result in a fat.

When you had your lessons, did you have the clubs then? If so, how were you striking?

Also, how were you striking the ball whilst having the fitting?

Obviously I am no expert and there are many on here who would be able to advise you more correctly, but to me, it seems as if it is a swing fault rather than an issue with the clubs.

The MX 15's have some very good reviews on t'net and are aimed at mid to high HCs.

Have you tried any other clubs? A mates set or a hire one from the range maybe. If you hit the same, it would be further evidence that your swing was causing the issue.

John Pettitt

Jason Vickers

Hi paul i brought the clubs about a year after i took up golf they are my 2nd set my first set was just a basic starter set. Last time i was at the range i did hit a few balls with my mates irons and i seemed to strike the ball a lot better this is whats got me thinking it might be the clubs that are not suited to me.

I had the clubs before i had the lessons and my swing has now completly changed since then. When i was fitted for the clubs i never had a proper swing to speak of and im wondering if i might need to be fitted again.

Like you say paul mizuno are a good brand and a bad workman always blames his tools.

Cheers for the advise

Matt Collins

Jason Vickers

John Pettitt

Jason. the clubs are ideal for you as they are what is now termed improvers clubs. I would have no trouble hitting them well at all and neither should you.

I am surprised that your teaching pro has not solved the problem for you.

Hitting the big ball before the small ball is caused by too early a release on the downswing and the easiest way to solve this problem, in my opinion, is to maintain the angle of the wrists that has been set at the top of the backswing and then concentrate on hitting the ball with both hands as opposed to attempting to hit it with your right hand only. This will keep your hands in the correct position and the release will be automatic.

I could solve your problem in ten minutes on the range and have you hitting the ball straight every time.

David Homer

John Pettitt

David, assuming you are not attempting to extract the ur*ne it is well known that I offer my help to anyone who requests it and have never had a failure yet.

Of course there might be a person out there who does not have the brain to absorb instruction, but as of this moment in time I have had a very good success rate. Two achieved scratch and became professionals 40 others at my old club became single figure handicap players and many higher handicap players have moved into the teens.

I currently have one golfer under my wing, so to speak, who has reduced his handicap from 28 to 18 in three months. I would call that a success, wouldn't you?

Jason Vickers

Matt Hargraves

David Homer

John Pettitt

Well then, David it looked as though you were spoiling for something mentioning money, when you know I am an amateur golfer, just like yourself.

I can be very abrasive if I feel threatened but i am sure you will find that I am very personable person face to face, whose only interest is to try and help everybody to play this game to their fullest potential.

The fact that I am prepared to offer my time alone should tell you that I have other players in mind.

I spent five minutes with your friend Paul Williams at the Belfry, so ask him whether I know what I am talking about.

David Homer

At no stage have I said that you do not know what you are talking about. I have a lot of respect for people who have more ability than I have.

I just consider your approach a little blinkered in that you will not consider opinions from others.

John Pettitt

This thread was about a forum regular having trouble with his irons. I have offered my input, none of which could be considered contentious.

Your first post in this thread was:

John, how much do you charge for a lesson?  Is the ten minute promise a money back offer!! 

Rather unusual to post off topic for the first post, don't you think. You were being antagonistic and now you are upset because I called you on it.

I only try to help people and I can handle comments from anyone, no matter how rude they get.

Paul Everett

The trouble with writing on forums is that one cannot always determine the tone of a comment or statement. I read Davids comment "John, how much do you charge for a lesson?  Is the ten minute promise a money back offer!! as tongue in cheek. It may or may not have been but thats how I read it. John, you obviously read it differently. Your make on it could have been right and mine wrong or visa versa. But my point is this, if one is not sure ... then ask. It would save a lot of mis-understandings.

David, was your comment tongue in cheek?

David Homer

Totally tongue in cheek! I would pay any price for a swing lesson that would sort me out in ten minutes, as I am sure most of the golfing community would do!

Chris Perry

David,

I normally find that a pint of bitter shandy is the price for 10 minutes of John's time.  And it will be 10 minutes well spent.  John notices the little things that make a big difference and suggests tweaks that are easy to maintain instead of total rebuilds. 

Oh and by the way, like Paul I also took your comment in the way it was intended.  To be fair to John he has took quite a bit of unwarranted abuse of late and this means he gets defensive quite quickly.  I'm sure a couple of months ago he would've took your comment in the way it was intended. 

Wayne Santorini

nah he wouldn't

John Pettitt

Paul Everett

Personally John, I think Golfshake should sponsor you to travel around the country holding golf improvement schools. (J.P. School of Golfing)

You could advertise the Golfshake site as well as improving the standard of play of the country.

I would certainly put my name down for the Essex leg of the tour

John Pettitt

Paul, there are many schools of thought on how a golf club should be swung, but the bottom line is that there are only a few fundmentals that have to be correct to achieve a consistent flight of the ball.

There is no advantage in attempting to change a persons swin,g as I have found that it is impossible. All I do is use what they have but tweak it so that the fundamentals I have mentioned are incorporated into the swing.

It really is a simple method that I adopt, but the proof of the pudding is in the eating and I have never failed to get anyone hitting the ball down the range, using their own swing, with a nice soft draw. It only takes me ten minutes to achieve this and it costs nothing.

Jason Vickers

Still been struggling to stop fatting my shots with these irons. Had a lesson today with my teaching pro and he checked out my irons to see if they had been adjusted like they should of been when i brought them. Guess what the lie angle had not been altered the pro said this was what is causing me to not connect with the ball correctly he took my 7 iron and after a couple of mins had adjusted it to the correct lie angle. I couldnt believe the difference it made i didnt hit one bad shot and i was reaching 130- 140 yards. The clubs have been left with him so as he can adjust them all to suit. Lesson to be learnt dont always beleive what your local golf shop tells you. Hopefully my handicap will start to drop and i can start enjoy playing more.

Paul Williams

Just goes to show that SOME of these golf store's and there staff are only interested in sales, Something which as been long mentioned on this forum but as yet not had the evidence to back up our claims.

Jason would you care to mention where you brought the clubs from??

With regards to John Pettitt, Listen very carefully to what he's saying!! Its solid advice from a very talented gent. He had me striking the ball lovely in 10 minutes at the Belfry. I now have the confidence and the action to produce a draw when required.

With regard to the proof, have a look at my stats, since march my scoring has come down from just over 100, down to the mid/low 90's and the odd 84. Yesterday i was only +1 after 4 holes, had the feeling off a pro and had the ability to see the shot and shape the ball.

If you ever get the chance to get John to have a look at your swing then TAKE IT!! I had 3 pro's this year all take a look and try and rebuild my swing when it wasn't required??? John did more for me in ten minutes than the 3 pro's did for me in 10 lesson???

Paul.

Steven Watmore

Hi All,

2 of my friends use MX15s and they are very easy to hit high, great for beginnners and improvers.v

As for John Petit. never met him but have read his posts and aswell as liking a good (well meaning) argument he really does know his stuff.

i'm currently getting down to around 10 handicap but would gladly have a round with John and learn how to be 3 or 4 shots better