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What Is The Stroke Index?

Stephen Harvey


Handicap : 28

Posted : Sun 10th May 2009 18:52

can sum1 explain stroke index to me

Last edit : Mon 11th May 2009 21:10
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Richard Lane-blackwell


Handicap : 19.9

Reply : Sun 10th May 2009 20:17

As far as I know stroke index determines how hard the hole is i.e. stroke index 1 would be the hardest on the course and stroke index 18 the easiest.

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Paul Everett

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Handicap : 18.4

Reply : Sun 10th May 2009 20:27

Thats how I believe it to be aswell. When calculating what holes you have shots on for your handicap, they go by the hardest to the easiest, ie, a 5 handicapper would have an extra shot on index numbers 1 to 5.

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Richard Lane-blackwell


Handicap : 19.9

Reply : Sun 10th May 2009 20:30

Just adding to that, the stroke index will work alongside your handicap to determine how many strokes for that hole you get.  For example, an 18 handicapper would get one extra shot on each hole = 18 extra shots.  If you have a handicap of 23 you would get one shot on every hole plus one extra on stroke index 1-5 (18+5=23).

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Paul Everett

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Handicap : 18.4

Reply : Sun 10th May 2009 20:34

Snap!

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Stephen Harvey


Handicap : 28

Reply : Sun 10th May 2009 20:55

thanks 4 that every 1

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Jon Williams


Handicap : 23.1

Reply : Sun 10th May 2009 21:45

Stephen, like you I was interested in how the Stroke Index was worked out.  Although it does indicate which are the most difficult holes there were some other considerations in setting it.  You will notice that if set correctly that the two nines of the round are evenly matched and that low numbers do not tend to appear on the first couple of holes and last couple.  This is to avoid a player receiving strokes in match play have a run of holes where they are receiving strokes or having too much advantage at the beginning and end of a round.  So it is not precisely set to show the hardest holes.

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Chris Perry

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Handicap : 15.5

Reply : Sun 10th May 2009 21:50

Typically the stroke index is worked out by "how hard is it to par the hole off the competition tees".  This is why when you are playing off the yellows you may be thinking to yourself "There's no way that this hole is harder than hole X".  As John has indicated above, if done properly the evens should be on one 9 and the odds on the other with the stoke indices scattered randomly across the nine.

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Russell Middleton

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Handicap : 14.9

Reply : Mon 11th May 2009 19:36

The stroke index is used to calculate your handicap, no matter which course you play at.

Some courses have a stroke index that is equal to the par for the course, so very easy to adjust your handicap.  Other course have a par of 72, but the SSS may be 69.

They try to have the odd numbers on one nine and the even numbers on the other nine.

The SSS is worked out from the back tee for each hole, for a scratch golfer.

The length of the hole and what is on it, bunkers, water, OOB's, etc.

The more trouble the harder the hole.

Russ

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Darren Ramowski

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Handicap : 21.3

Reply : Mon 11th May 2009 20:40

The post is actually ambiguous.

Titled 'what is SSS'

Content 'what is the stroke index'

 

Regards, Darren.

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Paul Everett

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Handicap : 18.4

Reply : Mon 11th May 2009 21:14

I was wondering how long it would take for someone to notice that.

Well done Darren.

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Patrick Bourke


Handicap : 11.3

Reply : Tue 12th May 2009 08:41

 Stephen, if you're playing a 27 hole: each 'course' of nine has an index of 1-9. Once you've established the no of shots received you usually allocate the shots odd SI no's on first 9 and evens on 2nd 9 though local rules will determine.

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Chris Perry

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Handicap : 15.5

Reply : Tue 12th May 2009 10:42

Played Cleobury Mortimer yesterday. They have 3 loops of nine and state that players with an odd number of strokes get them on the first nine played per your note Pat.  Wasn't a problem for me. 

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Christopher Watmore


Handicap : 12.4

Reply : Tue 12th May 2009 18:12

I keep trying to post the EGU guideline on Stroke Index Values but the site won't let me for some reaason. Basically it boils down to it being a system purely for Matchplay competition with not much baring on strokeplay competition.

Its not strictly just a system designed to identify the hardest holes on the course, but also to try and ensure a balance in matchplay competitions with people receiving strokes over 18 holes. With consideration given to ensure no one should receive strokes on 3 consecutive holes or on the 1st, 9th, 10th and 18th holes.

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Christopher Watmore


Handicap : 12.4

Reply : Tue 12th May 2009 18:26

Only recently have the EGu suggested clubs should introduce a seperate stroke index list for strokeplay, stableford, par and bogey competitions where the uniform and balanced distribution of strokes isn't required.

Our club will be doing this shortly when its been remeasured. Presently it looks like this:

Hole 1 & 10 - Stroke Index 8 & 9
Hole 2 & 11 - Stroke Index 4 & 3
Hole 3 & 12 - Stroke Index 16 & 17
Hole 4 & 13 - Stroke Index 12 & 11
Hole 5 & 14 - Stroke Index 2 & 1
Hole 6 & 15 - Stroke Index 18 & 13
Hole 7 & 16 - Stroke Index 14 & 15
Hole 8 & 17 - Stroke Index 6 & 5
Hole 9 & 18 - Stroke Index 10 & 7

Now after evaluating the scoring from 411 Competitions at my clubs (I'm sad and need to get out more I know.) I have come up with the following stroke index values based purely on hole difficulty in competition:

Hole 1 & 10 - Stroke Index 7 & 11
Hole 2 & 11 - Stroke Index 3 & 5
Hole 3 & 12 - Stroke Index 14 & 18
Hole 4 & 13 - Stroke Index 17 & 16
Hole 5 & 14 - Stroke Index 2 & 1
Hole 6 & 15 - Stroke Index 13 & 12
Hole 7 & 16 - Stroke Index 15 & 10
Hole 8 & 17 - Stroke Index 8 & 9
Hole 9 & 18 - Stroke Index 6 & 4

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Richard Lane-blackwell


Handicap : 19.9

Reply : Tue 12th May 2009 18:40

With regards to the title of the thread it started with no title, then changed to what is SSS? and has now been changed to what is stroke index?  That may be why there has been some confusion.

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Russell Middleton

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Handicap : 14.9

Reply : Tue 12th May 2009 19:12

Sorry for the confusion.

I notice there wasn't a title and though it would be easier for people to find if there was a title, but I put the wrong one on this thread.

Russ

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