which set of irons do you think will be better?
Callaway X22 Tour or the Nike Victory Red Split Cavity's?


thanks in advance for any replys!

I have not tried these clubs but going on looks and address, i would say the Nike's look smaller at address and i believe they are forged as well.

But the best thing you can do it go into American golf or direct golf ete,etc and try them both until you can determine which one you prefer the feel of.

Paul.

Yeah got to agree you really need to judge the feel of the clubs before you buy them.  Try and go somewhere with a range so you can judge the flight of the ball - not what the computer tells you!

Get to the Belfry, if you can, and get fitted - the fitting session is free if you buy the clubs.  Brilliant service.

Nike's all the way for me.

They are forged so feel better than the Callways, in my opinion they look nicer too. I think they are the same price anyway, depending on where you go. But get fitted and you wont go wrong.

Hello again!

Ive been using Callaway X20 for the last 5 months now
and tbh i think they are great any way you look at them
and you get a great feel and control over the club.

my friend has the Nikes and ive hit them a few times and tbh i do like them alot and when hit in the sweet spot they do fly nice, but its hitting the sweet spot most time.
Unlike the Callaways there not as much forgiveness which will mean i wont be as consistant? Surely?

And replys are great, Thanks alot.

Peter, I tried both clubs for you today X22 Tour 6i with Px 5.5 and the VR 6i split with s300  I found the Nike out performed hands down ,far more forgiving than the callaway. I was also 10 yrds longer with the VR I also compaired them on toe hits and thin's , both longer than the x22. The VR was better looking at address with a nice thin topline and minimal offset as opposed to the chunky x22. Nikey will also combo your clubs and as you are after maximum forgiveness I would look at maybe VR split red PW-7i and VR full cavity 6-3i I was quoted £62/club and £74/ club x22 Tour,and as the VR's are fordged they will feel better than the x22 so to me it's a no brainer.Nikes.

x22     Distance     170yrds     Toe hit    150yrds  Thin 150yrds

Vr     Distance       180yrds     Toe hit 160yrds Thin 170 yrds

Hope this helps.

Hello Dave, thanks alot for that, it really as helped
the only thing being I dont like To "combo" my sets it has to be all one set
i was thinking if i got 4-PW and use a 3 Hybrid?
as a 3 iron may be a bit hard for me to get full contact and will lose alot of distance?

Peter I used to be like you and had the same clubs throughout the set, last year I changed (on advice from David L) and I have to say I feel better and I'm getting better results (albeit when I'm concentrating and not just taking the p**s out of everyone).

The 2 occasions I played the Monthly medal at my home club (Par 72, SSS74) after changing I scored 83 & 87, again as I said because I've been allowing or inviting a lot of members from here to try out my links course I've concerned myself more with hoping their enjoying the course rather than my ability, however when the monthly medal starts again this month I'm looking to see my handicap start to drop again over the course of this year.

Consider the option Peter you'd be surprised how focused it makes you and will stop you hitting at the ball and will develop your feel for the swing, and when you do hit the ball out of the sweetspot with a blade WOW what a feeling

In case you didn't know I changed from Taylormade to Wishon 555's.

Peter,

I've just changed to a set of Nike Pro combos (forged) on Dave L's advice & the feel is superb abliet I've only taken the 7iron out on the course but used all the others on the range. I have just transferred my Nike's into my bag ready for the monthly mdeal tomorrow so will let you know how I got on.

My previous set were the Taylormade R7's

Hello everyone!

Today i went to the local american golf
and when i was looking through the golf clubs i seemed to notice that Taylor Made Tour Preferred Irons (the latest 2009 model) stood out the most!

has anyone got any advice about these irons?

thanks aolt!

Did you try them out?? this is what Sergio has in the bag at present. they look the dogs b####### but for forgiveness offer very little, saying that i have just brought a set of maruman irons(blades) and got on quite well with them today.

Peter the best thing you can do is ring the belfry, they will give you a two hour session getting you fitted out at a cost of £50 this them comes of the price of any purchase made.

When i had my fitting they covered irons, wedges and hybrid but that is all i requested, if you explain to them you wish to completely change the whole bag i'm sure they will accommodate you.

Sorry paul but that is the last thing i would do.

£50 for fitting but that comes off the price,i thing that would still make them about £50 more expensive than any other place for a set of irons.

How do you work that out Martin? Initially you pay £50 for your custom fit which is a very indepth 2 hour session. Then if you purchase the clubs/irons that price comes of the irons.

So my irons we're £399, fitted i paid £399? compared to else where like say snainton golf at the time they we're doing them for £379 online with the fitting done online also?

Martin if you wish to continue to disagree then so be it.

And just for the record there are some 20 handicappers out there who can strike blades.

I played the maruman's yesterday for the first time and although it took sometime to get confident with the irons by the end of the round i was putting my mid irons to within 2 feet??? 

You should be on tour then Paul if you are putting them to 2 feet

I am speaking from past experiences from all walks of golf .

If i am wrong on the Belfry front i aologise but i doubt it.

Common sense speaks for but think about

If you think blades help your golf just you go for it but you are wrong.

I'm not saying it will benefit my game just an experiment to see if i can strike them thats all, where's the harm in that. At the moment i'm playing a combi set of 4-6 in the tour burners and 7-w in the maruman's.

At the belfry they give you your fit details, quote you on what it would cost and then leave you alone so if you wish to take your specs elsewhere then so be it, you just pay for the 2 hours they have spent with you. No pressure sale's at all just straight forward advice.

With regard to yesterday, once i remember the tip i got from John Pettit, i went from having a mare to playing some half decent golf, finishing with my 1st birdie at the belfry.

If i should be on tour then you should have a green jacket or two by now then?

Of course you would, iam just speaking as i and most people are thinking, Its hard to tell you how or change your swing without hitting a ball.

In my experience teaching and being productive  is the way forward.

I have fortnightly lessons and have been taking these for the last two months. Prior to that i started out with a block of 10 lessons.

This is my theory behind trying the blades, i have taylormade z groove wedges and hit down on them well, producing a 110 yard club out of my gap wedge, this was supposed to be my 70 yard club, but at the time of my fit i was akin to sweeping the ball. My PW (wide sole) remained max 100yard club?

So i had the idea of buying a cheap secondhand set of blades to see if now that i'm hitting down on the ball would i benefit more or less? after half a round the verdict is still out, and you may well be right! But the way i learn new techniques and shots is by trying them out, this is all that i am doing, so again where's the harm in that?

To take the piss out of me for trying new things is wrong, and makes you look like a "scratch snob" not like a pro.

Calm yourself down there. i said irons not wedges and whome evevr who teaches you in using blades is totaly wrong.

Don't feed the troll.

Did i say my pro had advised me to play blades? i think not! you are not reading your replies correctly i think not, so again i will spell it out for you.... I THAT BEING ME (Paul Williams) DECIDED ALL BY MYSELF TO SEE IF I COULD STRIKE A BLADED CLUB!

That is all.

So i'm not trying to kid myself that i'm better than what i can play to, i purely wish to see if i have the ability to strike a blade purely and be able to enjoy that, now who are you to talk me out of that.....No one!

As you wish Mark.

OMG
Martin tbh yeh, you are a snob!
just coz u know you will be able to hit blades(playing of scratch)

you should try and help people who dont have the ability as you do
and instead of arguments, why dont you kindly recommend that Paul should use Cavity backs or split cavitys?

Its Pauls choice on what clubs he uses! if he likes the feel of the blades then so be it!

Martin your reaction has been wrong!
And would certainly not like to play golf with you!


Thanks for the replys on the Irons guys!

Peter , your more than welcome.The TP's are superb but you will sacrifice more forgiveness than the previous irons you mentioned.

I didn't think you were not genuine so I didn't mind taking the time to test them but I was genuinely impressed by the Vr's. I'm also a snob a forged snob, I like my clubs to be forged in Japan but I have a set of forged(china forged) Nikes, actually two a pro combo set from 2003 and TW blades 2004, the pro combos are one of the softest feeling forged clubs I own the 3 iron feels like an 8 iron  and I found the same feeling with the VR 3 iron. 

As Nick T said, and I would add they are classic looking nothing fussy but what ever floats your boat,good luck.

"They are forged so feel better than the Callways, in my opinion they look nicer too. I think they are the same price anyway, depending on where you go. But get fitted and you wont go wrong."

Peter,

Spot on reply mate. Good luck in your quest for your new irons, i know how painstaking that is as i went through the same process last year. But one point i will add is i wish i'd picked forged heads. My taylormade tour burners are nice and the forgiveness you get is great, but after hitting forged heads everything feels heavy through impact to me anyway.

Paul.

Peter,

played with my Nike Pro forged combo's for the first time in the monthly medal on Saturday & shot a net 68 (my course is a Par 70). The feeling I got when I struck the 5 iron was sweet, it felt like hitting an 8 iron.

John.

Rock on John , Keep it going .

Dave,

it's all down to you

Ah shuck's, get a room .

Eh Dave your new bag aint Floody's old one as "payment in kind"

Me with a TM bag get real , I dooooooooooo many things with a sheep but I ain't one!!

Funny Dave, . I'm searching asia for a maruman bag, do you know of any

Its lovely, so although i won't step on anyones toes i do want a similar one.

Image the sight of the couple of munters pushing them around wokefield

I Know a dealer in Japan I will ask him but they are kind of rare.

Tell me about it, I've just spent the last hour searching......found only one old school bag like the one woosie had that didn't sell for $50, then found a store which stock maruman cart bags ranging from $200-$900, but they don't look anything like the white one , they look more like the callaway weekender bags.

Peter

I find it hard to respond to you.

You have not read other posts so your comments are rediculous.

I will always take other peoples opinions on board.

Martin,

I think Peter was solely responding to this thread. I have heard its got quite aggressive on here tonight so i will post with the utmost caution as not to cause conflict.

I think what Peter is trying to say is that you shouldn't have jumped the gun in your train of thought, and although from your experience everything tells you a 20 handicapper can't it blades there will be a few players out there that have other problems than ball striking in there game which keeps there handicap up( for which you've already apologised for).

Paul.

Peter,

Not sure if this thread is still going or if you have already bought your clubs, but if not you should consider the titlest AP2's.  I was convinced I would be replacing my stolen R7tp's with the new TM's but my pro suggested I try the AP2's. 

 After testing them at the range it was a no brainer, AP2's all the way (for me anyway).  They are forgiving, easy to hit, forged so have great feel and hit it a mile.  Got them fitted as well and could not be happier.

Ap2 are a decent iron from a great name, being forged also with a slightly smaller looking head than the callaway's is always worth consideration.

Paul.

 Going on looks I think the Nike forged blades take some beating but I've yet to hit a ball.

Patrick,

I've hit the AP2's on the range & I have recently switched to the Forged Nike Pro Combo's, out of the 2 sets I prefer the Nike's. Price was also a factor, the AP2's were about £650 while the Pro Combos I got for £200.

John.

Patrick,

I've hit the AP2's on the range & I have recently switched to the Forged Nike Pro Combo's, out of the 2 sets I prefer the Nike's. Price was also a factor, the AP2's were about £650 while the Pro Combos I got for £200.

John.

Patrick,

I've hit the AP2's on the range & I have recently switched to the Forged Nike Pro Combo's, out of the 2 sets I prefer the Nike's. Price was also a factor, the AP2's were about £650 while the Pro Combos I got for £200.

John.

Similar decision to be made by myself tomorrow. Toss up between Nike VR split cavities and Ping i10's for me. Had a fitting on Tuesday and going back tomorrow to test both sets again on the practice ground. Think I've already made my mind up i.e. Nikes, absolutely gorgeous looking club and I personally found them so easy to hit but so were the Pings. All depends on how they perform tomorrow  

One word Chris........forged!

Nuff said. Good luck though hope your really pleased with your nikes

Yeah, I know there forged and you can feel the difference which I would never have believed unless I felt it myself. These babies will be getting head covers!!!!!

Chris,

Having seen you strike your irons did you not consider the TW blades? As i think you'd get on well with them.

Paul.

Paul, the sweetspot on the blades is smaller and my ball striking showed on the tapes that I was probably not consistent enough. The larger sweetspot on the split cavities will give me the extra bit of forgiveness that I still require. My aim ultimately is to get back to playing with blades which is what I learnt with some 32 years ago.

If you do take Paul's advice on getting headcovers make sure you dont leave them on after you play.

They are perfect for stopping "bag clatter" but they can cause rust on the heads if you leave them on for days at a time, especially if there is moisture on the clubs.

Very good point Nick, as our own moderator Perry will confirm, having left his wet srixon's in the car with covers on after a wet round!

Chris did suggest the head covers though not me, although i cover every club in the bag and remove once i get them in the house!

My wife as accused me of treating them like my children

Hi All

I played 4 rounds with the Taylor Made Tour Preferred Irons and the same with the Nike Forged.  I found the TaylorMade's very long off the tee and a great feel off the club face, but I found the Nike's easy to work.

Lee

Hi All

I played 4 rounds with the Taylor Made Tour Preferred Irons and the same with the Nike Forged.  I found the TaylorMade's very long off the tee and a great feel off the club face, but I found the Nike's easy to work.

Lee