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Graham Young



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Posted : Fri 3rd Oct 2008 05:27

Hi all.

Left an introduction in the first post section and my second port of call is here

Just looking for overall tips on helping me move forward

I understand the fundmentals of the game and I am taking tips from friends who play. I have played 8 rounds and 2 I have scored at 125 and 124.

The short game is where I struggle the most as I assume is the case with most beginners. What tips can you give me bearing in mind I don't know alot.

Pitching wedges - What situation should this be used.

Sand wedges - Are these for bunkers only.

Chip and run - Which club should be used? 6/7 iron?

After 8 rounds I am starting to reach the edge of the greens around 1 under par on a good day but end up with 7's and 8's. I know practice will be the key here but A few situations on club choice would be gratefull.

Cheers

YB

 

 



Steve Barnes



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Reply : Fri 3rd Oct 2008 10:13

hi

i try to use a chip and run alot i find that it is more accurate than a pitcher or sand wedge depending on the distence i normaly use a 7 iron that seen to work for me hope this helps bearing iin mind i have only been playing for 6 months and do play about 4 times aweek.


Daniel Smith



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Reply : Fri 3rd Oct 2008 10:39

Hi 

I change the club i use for a chip and run, depending on how far the pin is from yourself, how much fairway or rough there is beteween you and the green and how much room there is between the edge of the green and the pin.  I try to get the ball to bounce just off of the green when i am playing a chip and run shot so that the ball does not roll to far on the green. This is just what i do, and what i think about when i play my shot.

 If it is a small green and there is not much room for it to run.  Genrally i would playa more lofted chip, so that there is less roll on it.

I hope this helps.


John Pettitt



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Reply : Fri 3rd Oct 2008 11:17

Daniel, making the first bounce off the green is not the way to go, as the bounce cannot be guranteed. The first bounce should always be on the green and the nearness of the pin dictates what club and what shot is required. There are exceptions of course when the pin is tight but in the main, use the regular surface of the green for the first bounce.

John Houghton



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Reply : Fri 3rd Oct 2008 16:44

Graham

Its good to keep a record of your scores like you are doing,  and the early stages are the best when you can see dramatic changes.

I like you started off 120's (was just using an iron off the tee at first with big jumps coming down 116, 110 then hovered around 102, 103 for 2 months.

Feeling of breaking 100 was great and now scoring high 80's low 90's and the progress has slowed.  I'm still a high handicap player but for me my problem is keeping a good score going.

Last week was 5 under my par in coming to the 15th and then blew up - think I got excited and then went 8, 7, 8 and messed up my card.

Around green I just try to concentrate on no worse than 2 putting and also worth a try if you are just a few inches off the green using a 5 wood or a rescue club as then you are just concentrating mainly on the distance control, thats really helped me but may not be for everyone  - and if you think about scoring one over par then gradually that par's will start to come as your game improves.

Sand wedge - i find ive got to really concentrate on accelerating down into the back of the ball and keep my hands in front of the ball at impact and this has really helped me.

Good luck.

John

 

 


Graham Young



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Reply : Fri 3rd Oct 2008 22:14

Thanks for the advice folks.

Im really enjoying the game and want to get out and play everyday. Mainly because I hate being rubbish at something :D

I work offshore so at the moment I like reading little tips to try and help me for when I get back home.

There are so many 'wonder clubs' out there it's easy to spend money but was wondering if anybody would recommend a good wedge?


Mark Mead



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Reply : Mon 6th Oct 2008 14:30

Hi here, Graham.  I like yourself are a high handicapper and have only used golfshake recently listing my last 5 rounds (which is great to check on improvements) but here are a few suggestions that I have found have helped myself on trying to reduce my scores. Firstly for the pitching wedge- I usually use this club in two situations when i am approx 70 to 100 yards off the green as an approach shot with the ball central and my weight 60/40 to my left leg (r-handed player) anything nearer to the green than this I tend to use my 60 degree lob wedge, or I would use my pitcher from  deeper rough off the green (not fringe) with an almost strong putting action to get the lift out.. Otherwise I find that a seven iron with a putting action in the fringe or light rough works fine (remembering to read the geen as you would with a putt). I recently used a sand wedge off the tee on a short par 3 and the result was perfect, as i am sure you are aware the art is to keep your swing the same no matter which club you use at the moment (something i myself stuggle with). I also find that if i have areally bad lie in the rough around the greens/ off the back etc 30 yards+ that my sand wedge can help with these situations. I hope I've helped but as we know Graham its just a lot of practice and finding what works for you. Cheers mate Mark

Jamie Armstrong



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Reply : Mon 6th Oct 2008 15:00

I'm a newbie, started this year after playing maybe one round a year before that and this thread got me thinking about all the advice I've been given in the last 6-8 months.  After thinking about it I wondered which bits I'd impart.

Firstly, the chip and run shot is one I hated the idea of using, but started to with an 8 iron, and started to get good results from it.  However I now try to be a little smarter with it, depending on the situation and how much distance there is between me and the pin.  Like John says, I try not to land off green if I can, though there are times where I bottle it with a lofted shot and just try to skip it on from a distance away.

You asked if the sand iron should only be used from the bunker and I'd say no way, not even close.  It's the club I almost always end up using as a rescue shot as I've got to a stage where if I'm not hitting the green I'm only a short distance away and a little chip over a bunker, or over some rough tends to be required.  It's also the shot that I find most satisfying.

Other than that, listen to advice, all of it, even if it's conflicting, then try it all and see what works for you.  I've been given all kinds of tips, but what works for someone else doesn't for me.

Oh, and one final thing, keep your head down.  The number of times I forget this and smeg up my round isn't funny.  I drop a second ball to play as a practice, after chiding myself for lifting my head, and it's almost 100% that I get it right.


Jon Williams



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Reply : Tue 7th Oct 2008 00:13

My advice for the short game for what it is worth is commit to the shot.  If you are worried that you are going to hit the ball too hard or it is going to run away down a slope do not play the shot softly shorten your backswing instead.  This advice includes putting.  Make sure your follow through is twice as long as back swing with the putter.

Graham Young



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Reply : Tue 7th Oct 2008 04:40

Thanks again

Basically it's getting out there and praticing which is the best part!

 


Wayne Santorini



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Reply : Tue 7th Oct 2008 09:25

Welome Graham, just one piece of advice and I don't say it cockily, see a Pro.

Get at least 3 lessons under your belt and coupled with the games your playing you will see a massive improvement, friends are good for company but they can't see or advise where your going wrong a Pro can.

Good luck and hope to see that handicap dropping


Steven Watmore



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Reply : Thu 9th Oct 2008 10:42

H Graham.

i'd say practice a lot on short game.

at the range use your pw and sw for a lot of time as it will help much more than smashing your driver .

a lesson is also good


Mark Mead



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Reply : Thu 9th Oct 2008 12:12

Graham- I agree with Wayne and Steve above- I only started 6 months ago, and was regulary hitting the 110-120+ mark, it almost started to get soul destroying, but as wayne states seeing a pro is a great option-the feeling of having a full complete swing instead of the 3/4 swing that i had started off with was just unbelievable. It felt good when I stood up to the ball  I started having no doubts as to whether the ball was going to get away or not.  The confidence factor improved, my game improved and my ability to then judge what club would give me what distance greatly improved thus helping reduce my scores. Its always good to try and play different courses as well as this will improve your course management. Thinking 'ok 150 yds a six iron over the tree and im there' Is not always the best option as this way of thinking the- give it some welly train of thought invariably ends up costing shots as your swing often changes. Get down the range, shoot at different targets and have a lesson, even if just one to get you on the right track.regards


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