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Russell Middleton [FORUM MODERATOR]Handicap : 11.1 Posted : Mon 22nd Jun 2009 20:15 |
I would like to say to everyone on here what a true gent John Pettitt is. I PM'd him late last week to see if he would come over to my course and have a look at my swing. Things had been going wrong with it and I didn't know what to do about it. John gave me a choice of days and said he was only too willing to come over and see if he could help me. He arrived at my golf club at 10am this morning, after a two hour drive from his home. We went onto the practice ground and John was happy with my swing. To be honest my last three rounds (Friday, Saturday and Sunday) were good ones and my swing was back to it's best. After some lunch we went over to the Priors course and had 18 holes of golf. John had played on the Priors course about ten years ago and he was looking forward to playing there again. On the course John spotted one thing that I need to work on. I don't complete my swing on some of my shots. When I do a full swing I hit the ball well and where I'm aiming (give or miss a few yards), when I don't do a full swing I tend to push/fade the ball. I'll be working on this over the next few weeks. Our fourball all scored well and the weather was very good. John didn't leave the golf course until 6:45pm, so as you can see he had a full day. I'd just like to say a big 'Thank you' to John for putting himself out to help me, and at at a cost to himself. Russ |
| Last edit : Mon 22nd Jun 2009 20:17 |
John PettittHandicap : 16 Reply : Mon 22nd Jun 2009 20:48 |
| The pleasure was all mine, Russ, I can assure you. Nothing gives me greater pleasure than helping other players achieve their potential, and you certainly have a lot of that. Oh to be young and strong again. |
Paul Everett [FORUM MODERATOR]Handicap : 24.8 Reply : Mon 22nd Jun 2009 22:04 |
Some nice sentiments gents. |
Paul WilliamsHandicap : 22.4 Reply : Mon 22nd Jun 2009 22:31 |
So much for giving your arm a rest! Ah John. Fair play to you though, Its a shame a lot of members don't get to see the real John P. They would all then understand why your so loved and respected. Paul. |
John PettittHandicap : 16 Reply : Mon 22nd Jun 2009 22:53 |
| Paul, I don't have many games left in me, so cannot waste any opportunity to have a bash round a course, Bad arm or not. You will have noticed I have signed up to your West Midlands event. Looking forward to it now. |
Dennis Visser [FORUM MODERATOR]Handicap : 13.6 Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 07:50 |
I would like to copy the sentiments on here about John! I have been to the range and played a few rounds with him now and although I am only just starting out, John is very patient and helpful! He does get some bad press on here but honestly guys he does know what he is talking about!
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Chris Perry [FORUM MODERATOR]Handicap : 18 Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 08:15 |
I've played many times with John and he has always been helpful and supportive. I'm hoping that when I move down south permanently he'll take me under his wing in the way he has Dennis and help me take 10 shots off my handicap too! Need to watch out for his cheeky mind games when you're out on the course though ![]() |
John PettittHandicap : 16 Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 08:47 |
| Always remember, Chris, that if the gamesmanship starts then you have got the opponents worried. |
John PettittHandicap : 16 Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 08:58 |
Everyone who has asked for advice on this forum will know that my method is only about the basic fundamentals required for a ball to be hit nice and straight down the range. I never attempt to alter anyones swing, just tweak what they have onto the correct plane etc. Russell yesterday on the range at Stapleford Abbotts had a swing with all the basic fundamentals correct and there was little I could have done to improve on it, This is most unusual to find such a good method in a handicap golfer. His problem is that he does not do his range swing on the golf course all of the time and therefore although he has the potential to play every hole in par, because of his natural power and good basic swing, it breaks down, for various reasons. The very first hole, a par five he had a nice drive an easy lay up iron and with 80 yards to go, failed to complete the swing and it fell short into the water, Mistake number two was doing exactly the same with the next dropped ball. Starting with an 8 does not inspire confidence, yet it was tragic and should not have happened. Basically he swings the club through the ball on the range but hits and stops on the course. This is caused by tension in an attempt to steer the ball to the target instead of lining up and swinging with his natural pace through to a nice finish, something he did on every shot on the range. |
| Last edit : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 12:06 |
Drew FalknerHandicap : Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 09:56 |
Where abouts in the country are you John? Would like the opertunity to join you on the course and get some of your game improvement help. PS. I have ordered some of those Top flight Gamers you told me about. |
John PettittHandicap : 16 Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 10:11 |
| Drew, I live just north of Reading but play at Sherfield Oaks, near Basingstoke. I see you are in Hampshire, but then it is a fairly large county. |
Chris Perry [FORUM MODERATOR]Handicap : 18 Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 10:52 |
"Always remember, Chris, that if the gamesmanship starts then you have got the opponents worried." See, you're at it again and we aren't even playing!!! |
Drew FalknerHandicap : Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 10:58 |
John, I live near Winchester so about a 15 min drive from Basingstoke. Fancy a game some time?
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Stuart GovanHandicap : 12.2 Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 10:59 |
I echo all of the above sentiments. I asked for 10 minutes of John's time at the SW Qualifer and he obliged, even gulping down his profiteroles to give me some range time! |
Jim DorringtonHandicap : 15.7 Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 11:05 |
| Bit harsh that you pinched and gulped down John's profiteroles Stuart?! |
Dave Ley (south captain)Handicap : 9.1 Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 11:05 |
| Nice post Russell ,something that quite a few of us have known for a long while , no BS straight talking but loves more than anything to see others play well. It's quite rare these days to find someone who is so willing to give back to a sport they love so much without financial gain (not having a go at anyone who who's proffession it is). Good on you JP keep up the good work. |
David MarshallHandicap : 9.7 Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 12:01 |
Got to agree. He's a lovely guy..
Now. What I wanna know is..
When are we going to play at South Winchester or Sherfield Oaks, again?
How many fancy playing too?
The decent weather is finally here. So let's go for it |
John PettittHandicap : 16 Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 12:05 |
| Name the day you wish to play, David, either of the courses you mentioned and I am sure we can get something organised., Armco permitting of course. |
David MarshallHandicap : 9.7 Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 12:12 |
Anytime, from next week onwards, is fine by me. But we need to get as many people involved as possible. I'm not going down the 'Golfshake Organised Event' route again. So what we need to do is PM the usual suspects, and find out what dates suit.
No doubt some will show their willingness here and now. Hopefully! |
Chris Perry [FORUM MODERATOR]Handicap : 18 Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 12:19 |
| I'll play on the condition it's a Friday afternoon. Either South Winchester or Sherfield works for me. |
Drew FalknerHandicap : Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 12:26 |
| Id love to put some faces to some of the members on here, Ill play if its ok?? but can only do the weekend due to work commitments |
John PettittHandicap : 16 Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 12:37 |
Work! Drew, that is a four letter word and one that is not conducive to playing golf. It will be a week-day as I don't play at week-ends. |
Drew FalknerHandicap : Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 12:41 |
I wish I didnt have to do the dreaded "W" word but unfortunately my house wasnt free and that bloody lotto win keeps alluding me. Looks like I wont be able to benefit from your coaching :-( |
David MarshallHandicap : 9.7 Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 12:54 |
Drew..Surely you get some time off, for good behaviour? A Friday it is then. Unless others want a Monday
Like John, I don't do weekends. Too many people, too slow a round. No fun at all.
Chris. Does 12pm consitute afternoon to you? Wouldn't want to tee off too late |
Chris Perry [FORUM MODERATOR]Handicap : 18 Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 13:10 |
I'm supposed to finish at 12, but I have an understanding boss who lets me leave at 11 on Fridays on the odd occaison as long as I make the time up. It'll take me about 30 mins to Sherfield and about 45 mins to South Winchester so if the first tee off is 12 I should be fine. Can we NOT make it 10th July as I have the West Mids qualifier that weekend and the earache from the wife won't be worth it! |
Drew FalknerHandicap : Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 13:11 |
I do get time off David but im saving it for the arrival of my first child, the wife is already annoyed that ive taken a day off to play at a golf day on the 8th July on the downs course at Goodwood(really pooping my pants since I looked at there web site) Unfortunately I will struggle to get a round in with you guys. |
Darren MillichipHandicap : 10.7 Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 13:13 |
"Basically he swings the club through the ball on the range but hits and stops on the course. This is caused by tension in an attempt to steer the ball to the target instead of lining up and swinging with his natural pace through to a nice finish, something he did on every shot on the range."
John I seem to do the same on the course causing my shots to draw/hook left, is there any routines that i could do to help avoid doing it, as it is costing me shots as well as russ thanks for any advice Darren |
John PettittHandicap : 16 Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 13:30 |
Darren, having seen you hit a golf ball, I would say that at the moment you are a very fine player. like your brother. When on the range everyone is relaxed and the follow through happens automatically. I am just the same in being guilty of not completing the swing to its finish. This is most important, because in order to finish in a nice balanced position at the end of the swing the swing through the ball has to be correct. One cannot finish in a good position by going through the ball badly. How do we stop these little faults, not easy, I know, but perhaps the answer lies in thinking of the finish rather than the action of hitting the ball, which is what causes tension and wayward shots. Russ is the first player who has asked me to take a look at his swing that has given me no room to offer any advice because he had all the basics correct. I could have changed one little thing but that would have been nitpicking, as it was minor. Bad shots are usually caused because the player quits on the shot, be it a long iron or a short chip. Once a decision has been made as to how the shot is going to be played, then commitment is the name of the game. Indecision has no place on a golf course. |
Tim HawkinsHandicap : 17.7 Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 14:30 |
| Oooh, another game at South Winchester? I'm game! Give me a chance to show John how the swing (as opposed to the hit of old!) is coming on. |
John PettittHandicap : 16 Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 14:37 |
| After my money again, eh! Hawkins. You were swinging it nicely at Foxhills though, Tim, which is not an easy course to swing freely on, as you well know. |
David MarshallHandicap : 9.7 Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 14:42 |
No John..That's James and my prerogative to take the money.
Looks like we have 5 players, within 3 hours of the initial idea.
How does Friday 17th July at 12pm, suit? |
Chris Perry [FORUM MODERATOR]Handicap : 18 Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 15:16 |
That works perfectly for me as I have the following week off so she can't complain about not getting time with me!!! I'm in ![]() |
Paul WilliamsHandicap : 22.4 Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 15:27 |
| I'm always game gents, when and where?? |
David MarshallHandicap : 9.7 Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 15:36 |
| South Winchester. Friday 17th July @ 12pm |
Paul WilliamsHandicap : 22.4 Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 15:36 |
Chris, If your up these parts and travelling down, how about going halves on the fuel?? Paul. |
Paul WilliamsHandicap : 22.4 Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 15:37 |
Cheers David, I didn't mean literally, just sort of a self invite. Bloody cheeky i know |
Ian FellowsHandicap : 28 Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 15:40 |
John, I'm relatively new to the forum and have followed your posts with interest. I occasionally travel to Theale for work meetings (though these are increasingly rare as we're tightening our belts), next time I know of one do you mind if I contact you to see how you are fixed? I could book a day off and travel earlier/stay later and expose you to the horror that is my version of this wonderful game. If I'm in any way imposing, then please feel free to say so- I'm just being opportunistic! And thanks for considering it either way, Ian |
Paul WilliamsHandicap : 22.4 Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 15:40 |
Suppose i better go and cut the lawns (get in her good books before i take up the diary space Trouble is i'm to bloody knackered after this mornings round |
Andrew GuytonHandicap : 9.3 Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 15:43 |
| Any chance of joining in? I'd like to put some faces to names, just have to clear it with the Missus and work (not sure which is more difficult.....) |
Chris Perry [FORUM MODERATOR]Handicap : 18 Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 15:43 |
| I'll be working down in Newbury all week Paul so I'll only be about 45 minutes up the road. Sorry. Looks like you'll have to leave her without the car all day again, unless Floody is available to attend....... |
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Paul WilliamsHandicap : 22.4 Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 15:45 |
Sorry mate, i read it that you were off that week. No probs, she cam good use off one of her many buggies
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David McgloneHandicap : 20.4 Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 15:47 |
| These are exactly the kind of posts that make you feel good. One player ie John helping another player ie Russ. Man it makes you feel glad to be alive-great post Russ. Oh and John dont give us any nonsense about only having a few rounds left in you. You are much admired here so keep doing what you do. |
Darren Ramowski [FORUM MODERATOR]Handicap : 24.3 Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 16:23 |
I don't think there is much that will stop John playing golf. With a dodgy arm in the golfshake.com Open South West qualifier he still came in with 29 points and had the 3rd best back 9 out of the whole field with 18 points !! http://www.golfshake.com/news/view/1134/Golfshake_com_Open_SW_Qual_results.htm |
John PettittHandicap : 16 Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 16:36 |
| Darren, information of a very sensitive nature should be kept secret. It was nice to see the improvement in the shape of your shots though. |
Dennis Visser [FORUM MODERATOR]Handicap : 13.6 Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 17:23 |
Do you know what? Im in! And for once I am not going to cancel - They can sack me, the wife can leave me, the world can stop - I AM PLAYING!!!! |
David MarshallHandicap : 9.7 Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 17:30 |
Ya reckon??
What if I say you can't? |
Danny BrantHandicap : 18 Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 17:56 |
I'd love to come. Not sure I can get another Friday off. John I'll have to get you down to Pedham. Played last week, and it's playing lovely. I thougnt you said my swing had nothing to improve. |
John PettittHandicap : 16 Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 18:08 |
You have a very good swing, Danny, you just have a small problem with a feel for weight and distance. Let me know when you are playing Pedham next and if free I will pop down for a game. |
Dennis Visser [FORUM MODERATOR]Handicap : 13.6 Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 18:34 |
If you say I cant, I'll just go down there, book a tee time of 11.55hrs and play a six hour round refusing to let anyone through......
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Wayne SantoriniHandicap : 0 Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 20:17 |
I'll stop you getting to the course before you get chance to do that Dennis
is that £5 in the post now David |
Danny BrantHandicap : 18 Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 20:17 |
| I might go a week Friday John. Probably an afternoon tee time. |
John PettittHandicap : 16 Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 20:27 |
| Friday 3rd July is OK by me. confirm when you know. |
John FloodHandicap : 13.6 Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 20:39 |
Paul / Chris, you 2 will have a lot of creeping to do then, have you forgot the YMCA game is on the 15th July???
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Paul WilliamsHandicap : 22.4 Reply : Tue 23rd Jun 2009 20:57 |
I don't do creeping John!!!! Just make sure the balance is fair on the other half! Oh and i have it in writing "If i let her by the last buggy(No-7 for the year) i can play golf when ever i want!". Its great, like a get out of jail card. |
Chris Perry [FORUM MODERATOR]Handicap : 18 Reply : Wed 24th Jun 2009 08:29 |
I've been told I can play whenever I want John, as long as I let her have a moan about it. I think it makes her feel like she's in charge. I told her you and Paul were playing Handsworth on Sunday afternoon after I got off the phone to him mid-morning and 30 minutes later out of the blue she said "You can go and play golf this afternoon if you want". YMCA is looking unlikely for me as I'm likely to have a CDR that day for one of the projects I'm running |
Tim HawkinsHandicap : 17.7 Reply : Wed 24th Jun 2009 13:26 |
| Be good to know if you can do the YMCA Chris, otherwise we might have to see if there are any other roly-poly brummies to fit inot your team shirt... |
Chris Perry [FORUM MODERATOR]Handicap : 18 Reply : Wed 24th Jun 2009 13:41 |
Call me a Brummie again Hawkins and me and a 5 iron will be paying you a non to friendly visit...... |
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Dave Ley (south captain)Handicap : 9.1 Reply : Wed 24th Jun 2009 13:57 |
| Brummie.......... |
Tim HawkinsHandicap : 17.7 Reply : Wed 24th Jun 2009 14:08 |
| When you mince away from your new Southern nancy mates you mean? |
Paul WilliamsHandicap : 22.4 Reply : Wed 24th Jun 2009 14:32 |
Not rising to the bait, Hawkins!!! |
Paul WilliamsHandicap : 22.4 Reply : Wed 24th Jun 2009 14:58 |
Mr Perry is not a brummie!!!!
He's a WANNNA-BE Brummie!! |
Tim HawkinsHandicap : 17.7 Reply : Wed 24th Jun 2009 14:59 |
| Are you up for a free game if the non-brummie can't make it, Paul? |
Dave Ley (south captain)Handicap : 9.1 Reply : Wed 24th Jun 2009 15:22 |
| John, I know I was trying to up his image a bit................ |
Tim HawkinsHandicap : 17.7 Reply : Wed 24th Jun 2009 15:39 |
| At least you're proud of your West England heritage, Dave. |
Chris Perry [FORUM MODERATOR]Handicap : 18 Reply : Wed 24th Jun 2009 16:41 |
Yorkshireman, proud of it. Not rising because I'm in a two day CDR. Now if you'll excuse me, it's sunny outside and I think I shall have a game of golf. |
Paul WilliamsHandicap : 22.4 Reply : Wed 24th Jun 2009 16:42 |
| This yam-yam, will gladly make himself available. |
Dave Ley (south captain)Handicap : 9.1 Reply : Wed 24th Jun 2009 17:06 |
| You made me spill me cuppa tea then tim!!! |
John FloodHandicap : 13.6 Reply : Wed 24th Jun 2009 21:09 |
Chris, If you don't turn up it might mean the other team may stand a chance of winning Why didn't you turn up on Sunday? |
Chris Perry [FORUM MODERATOR]Handicap : 18 Reply : Thu 25th Jun 2009 08:42 |
| Give and take John. I pulled the "Nah, I've hardly seen anything of you this weekend so I'd rather spend time with you" one, knowing that I was giving up one game but would be able to get three or four off the back of it. |
Andrew GuytonHandicap : 9.3 Reply : Thu 25th Jun 2009 09:57 |
| As long as your Missus doesn't read these forums that is! |
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