hey guys

i have been playing alot recently and shooting quite well low 70's but i keep finding my self with great distance on my irons landgin with in 2-5foot of the pin but rolling part to around 15-20ft which is making those burdie putts alot harder

does any one have any tips on how to get more check on spin off the ball

i realize i could just aim shorter and let it run up but i like to attack the pins

thanks for any comments

Are you for real?

I was thinking exactly the same thing, at the same time....Great minds

Greg, I think you need to get two more rounds added or manually adjust your handicap so people can see how good you are from your handicap figure on the site.

Can't really help as completely out of my league.

Jon...I already checked out Greg's stats.. Which is why I wondered if he was for real?

The reason being....You don't shoot scores, like his stat page shows, unless you know how to play this game well. Therefore, at that standard, you should know how to get check and spin on the ball 

he is only a young lad

use softer balls (pro v1), play nicer courses.

David, read the post. He knows how to get check and spin on the ball he just wants to know how to get more of it.  Point taken though.

Jon, I think you will find that he has worded the post very poorly and by using the word 'more' he is actually meaning more than the nothing he is currently getting.

One does not get a 70 by being lucky, the ball must be struck solidly all the way round, my guess is that he flights the ball fairly low as he will not be strong enough yet at his age to generate the power needed for very high ball flight and because of this, getting any kind of stop is really a lottery. Possibly also the course he is playing could have very hard fast surfaces where nothing will stop.

thanks john the past few weeks (10-15 rounds) i have been hittin the ball really solidly espesialy wiht my low irons but i know i play a low tragectory through all the clubs in my bag but i tend to be a big hitter of the ball due to the amount of time i used to spend in the gym for other sports

how do i adjust my handicap manualy ?

does any1 have any tips like where to strike the ball or is it a steeper swing i need or change my swing plane? i tend to play a darw for most of my course barr a few holes which require a fade from tee to green

thanks again

John, was only trying to get a rise.  As well as being a poor golfer I haven't worked out yet how to do the smiley faces to let people know I'm joking.  Glad to see you've put your sinicism aside and started to impart some of your considerable knowledge to Greg. 

Greg although I often disagree with many of John's opinions he is certainly worth listening to on all matters technical.  You could also do with a spell check to make your posts a little more readable.  May be you spent a little too long on the sports field and not enough concentration in literacy and computing.  I would do a smiley face here if I could.

Jon in the normal font size type the following double colon then lol then double colon again

comes out as  

try these:

    golf

    whistle

   redface

  mrgreen

   sad

   banana 

   wink

   cheers

    doh

    cheese

    cry

   mad

    neutral

   surprised

   think

You need to get out more Waynetta, and preferably without Sobey. He's addled your brain

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TRUE

 Gotta try a face now....

:cheers:

(ahem)  obviously can't follow "simple" instructions!!

I'll get my coat...... 

Jon, I was not attempting to get a rise, as you inferred, as I addressed the post to you and not Greg. I was only offering a reason as to why he cannot stop the ball on the green, he has since confirmed what I said, that he does have a low ball flight and with the draw that he is favouring, the ball will run when it lands.

He is obviously a great striker of the ball and is hitting a lot of greens in regulation, and it is not easy to get long irons to stop unless you can carry them in high.

Greg, the fact that you play with a draw tells me that your plane is correct as it is impossible to draw the ball unless it is.

I, myself have always favoured a draw shot, as it takes away all the trouble on the right and is handy when playing to tight flags on the right side of the green as the ball will be moving away from it to safety.

I would suggest that providing there is room for a run up then with the longer irons one would have to take this into consideration, especially to a front pin, after all these things are all part of the game.

Modern courses all seem to have lakes or massive bunkers in front of all the greens and for the majority of us all we are being forced to lay up and then having to rely on a good pitch and one putt. This is bad course design as it does not give the option of running a ball in. After all is said and done the courses are mostly played by amateurs, not pros and apart from those 28 handicap members on this site who can hit it three hundred yards, most of us don't.

Keep up the good work, Greg, seems to me that you are working in the right direction and that soon you will really get to grips with this game. Just being able to draw the ball, tells me you swing is sound. The ball has to be struck correctly on plane to achieve this kind of flight and very few are capable of it.

I agree with John. As a high handicapper i cant really comment on technical skills that much.
But try playing the course, what i mean is if your roalling past the pin now in summer it will roll even more past. I know its always tempting to go for the pin but if you can get the ball to finish rolling near the pin rather than pitching there you may be better off. If this means taking a club less and letting the ball carry to the hole do that as long as theres no hazzards in the way, it may not look as good as the pros but if it gets your scores down then whos bothered.
I have started bumping and running from close range and it turns out better than pitching.
I know this isnt answering your spin question but i suppose you could use this till you get the spin you need.

I tried drawing the ball once but it looked more like an egg...

I try to pitch to the front of the green and let the ball roll to the pin - same with a chip. I would not chip to pin - my chip would be to somewhere in front off the pin and let the ball roll on up.

In theory guys/girls - in theory...........

Jim use :: before and after the word ie

::happy::

To impart backspin, you need to hit the ball crisply and firmly in the right place, with the right swing and accelleration. Also, playing with a Titleist PTS (for example) won't help if you are a high handicapper, as the coating on the ball isn't designed to grip the grooves as much as a softer covered ball does (let's say a Pro V1), and the spin rate of the ball is therefore lower too.

Throw all that into the computer, and mix in the low ball trajectory you have, and I'd say you may be needing to take a club less and let it bounce at the front of the green rather than throw it all the way up there and expect pro-like action on the dancefloor. It's a harder game when you are relying on bounces though, and brings bunkers into play alot of the time. HTH

thanks for the help guys i might try and get my swing uploaded see if any one can pick up on anything else

just wanting to know how do u change ur handicap manualy on here ? as i can see why the first few people though i was joking when it sayd 28 next to me :P

Thanks Wayne