add one reason to the list as to why we're better, and keep the ball rolling. also why we hate southerners,lol   but keep it relatively clean as many a fight seems to have broke out in history.

Feel free to add some pictures to emphasise the fact that we have the sheer natural beauty, and they have... a couple of bridges and that complete waste of a hospital, the dome

You are certainly deluded if the you think the North is the only place that has scenery worth mentioning.

Having traveled the length and breadth of this Island of ours in a truck, given a choice of where I would want to live, I'm afraid the South wins hands down. My eldest son lives in the Peak district, a supposed area of natural beauty, but every time I visit, it just depresses me.

Scotland home of GOLF. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dorset, Cornwall, Hampshire, Devon need i say more!!

The beers in the west country far outclass any up north, with the exception of timothy taylors lanlord.

the dome is awsome now. 

Trust the Twee to mention another country.

I thought the post was about the North / South divide of England.

Obviously the North is full of ########, well one of them is anyway.

And what's that Angel of the North thing all about anyway?  Now that is an eyesore 

That is one monstrosity, for sure, David, but The city is very nice these days. The countryside is so depressing though.

I prefer the south, I understand them better

Northern girls - yummy...

Accent of the mackem and tackems - great stuff   "give ya heed a shack ya eyes a stack." - Tackem fan to the ref one match..

Parsnips - much harder frost on the tough Northern veg...

NWOT..........

Obviously the North is full of ########, well one of them is anyway.

The ############ bit refers to Southerners, Wayne is one of them.

That was because, none of the North, at that time, had responded  

Sorry Wayne, didn't mean to get personal. 

didn't take it personal mate, thought you were being sincere to me

I can sum it up in one word

Yorkshire

Enjoy the weekend boys, wayne take some of that northern weather with you, that should softhern the S S up a little bit. Bi the way John  nice h'cap!

I'm not playing Graham, too many week day events ruin my holiday entitlement with the missus.

Darren needs to start thinking of having a weekend event now and then, after all they'd be plenty of people that could attend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll be in North Wales (Caernarfon) playing in the Captains Cup tomorrow so look out for the card appearing on Monday

Same with me.  Thinking about the Empress Open though as that is on a Saturday.  Only problem is we go on holiday the following day so I may need to do some grovelling before hand. 

My Nans from Sunderland, so its not all bad up north.

Luke has mentioned to me that a weekend event may well be being planned for early Summer, so we will watch that space!

Where's this one going to be then?  The Outer Hebrides....

only good thing about the south is that its a long way from the north !!!!!! and may it stay there.

I agree with that, the further away from the North the better.

David, perhaps we could have Golfshake on Tour to the Hebrides. Seems like the perfect spot, with 22 hours of daylight in the summer.

http://golfhebrides.com/quirks/

Reasons I like 'the North':

Courses within 20 miles of my house?  57

Course within 50 miles of my house?  332

I rest my case m'lud

Reasons I like the South

Courses within 20 miles = 38

Courses within 50 miles = 138

8 mile stretch of soft sandy beach = 500 yards

New Forest 15 miles

The Purbecks 2 miles Assuming the ferry is taken at Sandbanks

Beautiful country walks and small villages 10 miles

Better climate, with more hours of sunshine and warmer weather 

Case over ruled. Judgement for the South

Courses within 20 miles = 100

Courses within 50 miles = 516

Sorry Tim, My area is far superior in numbers and most definitely more superior in Quality. You are forgetting that Surrey and Berkshire is the home to nothing but high quality courses, not forgetting the weather to be able to play them all year round. No winter tee mats and definitely no winter greens.

I'm in prime position 

Courses within 5 miles. 10

Courses within 10 miles. 38 

Courses within 15 miles. 105 

Courses within 20 miles.192

Courses within 50 miles. 564 

London is bound to have more, Danny when you consider the home counties. They are deluding themselves up North.

I suppose they have tp dream eh John. It's what gets them through the long dark cold nights, looking into there nasty brown beer, eating there deep fried food.

It is a shame that such lovely people have to live in such depressing areas, Danny. Still, if they have never had it, then they never miss it.

Having spent 15 years living and working in Hertfordshire (or Watford if you're not posh) and Middlesex I can see both sides of this argument.

My partner, a wonderful lady from Hertfordshire, now resides in the north with me and it was her choice to move up here, she convinced me, and women are never wrong are they? 

She must feel like the lady of the manor up there.

She sure does Danny, and we treat the servants very well..

...or children as we call them down here.

I moved up north with the missus. hated it.

We now live in the midlands, so a bit of a compromise. The only problem of course is our kids will have a brummie accent!

Still, at least I wont see them on jeremy kyle.

me and all my lot love it in t north, but in the end we love BETIN U SUTHAN LOT AT ANY THIN.   C U IN T NvS. FULL STOP.

Dear me Danny what did Birmingham ever do to deserve you and your kids, poor brummies.

I live in Watford and its shit! I'm a North Wales boy at heart and they laugh at you in the chippy when you try and order chips & gravy! They're the losers!!!

Why not move then Anthony ?

Missus won't let me!!!

Has she got very heavy thumbs?

The print on my forehead is very embarassing every time I go out.

I find a baseball cap or beanie hat is both fashionable and functional in these cases. 

Anthony you've got to get out of there as soon as possible or you will start talking like them, innit 

I say old boy. Are you insinuating that we Southerners are Chavs?

I'll have you know we talk proper down ere 

Divant na wat ya talkin aboot hen

Only the toon tark propa

gan up ere n yall see man it's tra

NWOT........

 eh?

He's in in own little world Tony.  Just leave him there

Your not the first to suggest that David...

NWOT....

ok just where on the map do we draw the line to divide north and south ? just to make sure before i start with the quotes lol 

Really chris !!  LOL

Hmmm, I was trying to say……

Meriden is traditionally the middle of the country.  However, the BBC worked with ordanance survey and found that the theoretical centre, including all islands, is just outside Fenny Drayton in Warwickshire, about 11 miles North.  The grid reference is 36373.66 96143.05.  For the engineers out there, this would be the centre of gravity of the country.  Perhaps this should be taken as the measure.  

In this case, if an east-west line was drawn from there then Birmingham is just in the south with Lowestoft and Aberystwyth and Wolverhampton just in the north, along with Peterborough and Norwich. 

However, I firmly believe it's where you are born, not where you live.  I also know that I'm a bit of a geek and quite sad. 

Im sure I speak for all of us when I say that we appreciate the time and effort put into that explanation Chris!!!! An easier and slightly more contraversial way is simply to put a foreign exchange student in the room, anyone she can understand is from the south, anyone she cant is from the north!

Chris - only a bit of a geek on the geek scale.  Fenny Drayton won't be the centre of gravity of the country, all those hills in Wales will be heavy and East Anglia being as flat as a nuns t*t means it will be lighter etc:  Excluding Scotland I reckon the CoG would be in Macclesfield.

LOL blimey chris !! id hate to have been your teacher back at school marking your homework !! lol

ok best things about the north - teh birds and the food without a doubt !!

I live in leicester but back in the day used to live up north in Bolton !! might be a good time now to also mention that im playing for the south team !!  lol

ok lads fire away !!! 

Thanks Tim.  I feel better for you saying I'm only a low level geek.  Obviously I wasn't taking terrain into account and only considering the country as a two dimensional mass (that means I was imagining it was flat for all you southerners). 

Do you agree that it should be decided on birth rather than habitation?  Unless of course your granny is Irish which means you have the choice.....

Hey, you asked Alps!!!

Living in Bolton or Leicester you're just in the North mate.  Unless you actually live in Hinckley, and then you're in the South.  How would you feel about being a Northern spy?

Place of birth is what matters IMO.  I might live in Solihull, but I'm a Yorkshireman through and through. 

LOL some chap called Wayne keeps emailing me offering me loads of cash to drop a few shots here and there at the north v south event!! lol

One main prob about northeners though !!  wht the heck can you not say the word INTERNET properly !!  most call in TINTERNET !!  im not kidding !!