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where does distance come from?
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| where does distance come from? |
![]() Liam HignettHandicap : 9.4 Posted : Wed 1st Aug 2012 22:29 |
club head speed? solid swing mechanics? how do the guys on tour hit it so far? |
![]() Tim HawkinsHandicap : 13.5 Reply : Wed 1st Aug 2012 23:50 |
Basic physics Liam, Newtons 2nd law of motion. Force = mass x acceleration. So the mass of the ball is fixed as is the mass of the club head, therefore it's purely down to clubhead speed (although it's a bit more complicated than that...) |
![]() Judy OwensHandicap : 25.1 Reply : Thu 2nd Aug 2012 07:40 |
Apart from the physics stuff it seems to be down to tempo and timing. The more desperate and frustrated I get the harder I try and hit it and the shorter and more offline it goes. My husband looks like he puts very little effort in and strokes it off the tee and he can reach 300 yards. |
![]() John PettittHandicap : 21 Reply : Thu 2nd Aug 2012 08:34 |
Appearances are deceptive, Judy, your husband is a good player and, like the pro's, delays the hit thus masking the aggression. I used to be able to do this, but my body now is completely unresponsive to any signals from the brain. Could be that the signals are no longer forthcoming. |
![]() Patrick BourkeHandicap : 11.3 Reply : Thu 2nd Aug 2012 09:34 |
The great John Jacobs said distance = club head speed applied properly. |
![]() John DunneHandicap : 11.8 Reply : Thu 2nd Aug 2012 10:53 |
John could you elaborate on what you mean by delaying the hit? Is this turning the lower body first on the downswing. I would guess I'm amongst the longer hitters (with irons definitely) but pros seem to be on another planet in this regard. As an example I hit my 7 iron about 165 but pro's seem to hitting 7 irons up to 200yards and beyond sometimes. Ps sorry for mentioning yardages as I know your disdain for them |
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![]() Tim GreavesHandicap : 8.9 Reply : Thu 2nd Aug 2012 14:11 |
I know that length should be all about physics but it must be about timing aswell. I have a swing speed of around 95 mph ( not quick ) and never reach parallel on my backswing, yet I can knock it out there. I am 6"2 which obviously helps, but I suppose I should just be thankful and work hard on shorter clubs and putting. |
![]() John PettittHandicap : 21 Reply : Thu 2nd Aug 2012 17:45 |
John D, all good players sequence the swing correctly to produce Lag, which is the vital part of producing power. To create lag the secret is to make sure that the weight is being properly shifted FORWARD just before the club reaches its position at the top of the backswing. As this occurs a recentreing of the centre of the body will occur and the hands will automatically LAG behind the body. The hips shift the hips rotate, the hands FOLLOW or LAG behind. The DOG wags the TAIL. In a great golf swing the hands follow the movements of the body and have no choice but to delay their hit. TO create lag, sequence your downswing so that you achieve the following:
Hope that is relatively clear. |
![]() Chris Perry[FORUM MODERATOR]Handicap : 12.8 Reply : Thu 2nd Aug 2012 21:02 |
What John has said above is right (quite often is) but there was something I was shown on video in my swing during a lesson last night that is costing me some distance too. It's not dissimlar to the lag John mentioned above Basically, at the point the clubhead is striking the ball it is ahead of my hands. It is a result of me releasing my hands too early. The hands should be ahead of the ball when the clubhead makes contact (roughly in line with the left thigh for a right-hander) as this maximises the clubhead speed at impact, caused by both flex and hands being at their maximum forward acceleration at the time. My hands were almost in line with my right thigh Have a look at some of the greats (Snead, Hogan, etc) at impact and you will see exactly what I mean |
![]() Richard LaneHandicap : 10 Reply : Thu 2nd Aug 2012 21:12 |
Don't always agree with JP but the only thing that matters is LAG. |
![]() Patrick BourkeHandicap : 11.3 Reply : Fri 3rd Aug 2012 08:33 |
Don't forget that shaft type is important too. |
![]() John DunneHandicap : 11.8 Reply : Fri 3rd Aug 2012 22:05 |
Cheers jp. Patrick are you simply talking about steel vs graphite? |
![]() Patrick BourkeHandicap : 11.3 Reply : Mon 6th Aug 2012 12:47 |
John, no I'm talking about the flex (tho' my driver is graphite). I have Dynamic gold regular steel shafts on my irons 3-Sand wedge. My sand wedge will get me 110 yds however I have two Nike Lob wedges 56* and 60* which get me 60 & 80yds resp. The difference is the shafts as the nikes are v stiff. It's often said the stiffer the shaft the more accuracy but the flipside is loss of distance. |
![]() Patrick BourkeHandicap : 11.3 Reply : Mon 6th Aug 2012 12:51 |
John, no I'm talking about the flex (tho' my driver is graphite). I have Dynamic gold regular steel shafts on my irons 3-Sand wedge. My sand wedge will get me 110 yds however I have two Nike Lob wedges 56* and 60* which get me 60 & 80yds resp. The difference is the shafts as the nikes are v stiff. It's often said the stiffer the shaft the more accuracy but the flipside is loss of distance. |
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